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I never questioned the earth being round until today, I challenge you to watch this ENTIRE video and not have the seed of doubt planted in your mind.

https://www.youtube....h?v=h5i_iDyUTCg
Earth is not a spinning ball
Flat Earth Infrared Camera - Hundred of miles with no curve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5RJhRNWCMo&t=608s
2nd Law of Thermodynamics: Can't have + Pressure against a vaccuum: https://www.youtube....suvdGYCY&t=500s
Astronauts on wires / Chromakey Technology: https://www.youtube....h?v=x6XeELc3QH8
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLltxIX4B8_URNUzDE2sXctnUAEXgEDDGn
http://www.atlantean...nning-ball.html
https://flatearthsci...t-earth-proofs/

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I listened for a few minutes until he said that tunnels and bridges don't allow for earths curvature. However this is a fact about the Verrazano Bridge. Its monumental 693 foot high towers are 1 5/8 inches farther apart at their tops than at their bases because the 4,260 foot distance between them made it necessary to compensate for the earth's curvature
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Like i said. I challenge you or anyone to watch the ENTIRE video. There are a few things I disagree with but as whole i think what is presented makes a good case. I think its important to hear both sides of the debate instead of just shutting down once you hear something you disagree with. How can anyone learn that way?

I can google stuff too:

The London and Northwestern Railway forms a straight line 180 miles long between London and Liverpool. The railroad's highest point, midway at Birmingham station, is only 240 feet above sea-level. If the world were actually a globe, however, curveting 8 inches per mile squared, the 180 mile stretch of rail would form an arc with the center point at Birmingham raising a full 5,400 feet above London and Liverpool. Adding the station's actual height (240 feet) to its theoretical inclination (5,400 feet) gives 5,640 feet as the rail's necessary height on a globe Earth, more than a thousand feet taller than Ben Nevis, the tallest mountain in Great Britain.

The Suez Canal which connects the Mediterranean Sea with the Gulf of Suez on the Red Sea is a clear proof of the Earth's and water's non-convexity. The canal is 100 miles long and without any locks so the water within is an uninterrupted continuation of the Mediterranean Sea to the Red Sea. When it was constructed, the Earth's supposed curvature was not taken into account, it was dug along a horizontal datum line 26 feet below sea-level, passing through several lakes from one sea to the other, with the datum line and the water's surface running perfectly parallel over the 100 miles. The average level of the Mediterranean is 6 inches above the Red Sea, while the floodtides in the Red Sea rise 4 feet above the highest and drop 3 feet below the lowest in the Mediterranean, making the half-tide level of the Red Sea, the surface of the Mediterranean Sea, and the 100 miles of water in the canal, all a clear continuation of the same horizontal line! Were they instead the supposed curved line of globe-Earthers, the water in the center of the canal would be 1666 feet (502 x 8 inches = 1666 feet 8 inches) above the respective Seas on either side!
Earth is not a spinning ball
Flat Earth Infrared Camera - Hundred of miles with no curve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5RJhRNWCMo&t=608s
2nd Law of Thermodynamics: Can't have + Pressure against a vaccuum: https://www.youtube....suvdGYCY&t=500s
Astronauts on wires / Chromakey Technology: https://www.youtube....h?v=x6XeELc3QH8
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLltxIX4B8_URNUzDE2sXctnUAEXgEDDGn
http://www.atlantean...nning-ball.html
https://flatearthsci...t-earth-proofs/

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Wishcast hater I really didn't turn it off because of that one thing. I just think it is far fetched. I look at the moon and see it is round, the sun is round, I really doubt the earth is flat. Probably everything this guy says can be explained by a knowledgeable scientist. Maybe I am missing something but just thinking off the top of my head, elevation is based on earths surface not some imaginary straight line that goes through the earth from one place to another. If I get a chance maybe I will listen to the rest.
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Here is something I never thought of regarding planes. If a plane would fly in a straight line it would gain altitude. The reason it follows the curvature of the earth is as follows.

A constant altitude must be kept using the standard pressure and that means a fixed distance to the earth center of gravity is maintained, making the path of the plane a curved one.
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From Washington’s Rock in New Jersey, at just a 400 foot elevation, it is possible on a clear day to see the skylines of both New York and Philadelphia in opposite directions at the same time covering a total distance of 120 miles! If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, both of these skylines should be hidden behind over 800 feet of Earth’s curvature.

The New York City skyline is clearly visible from Harriman State Park’s Bear Mountain 60 miles away. If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, viewing from Bear Mountain’s 1,283 foot summit, the Pythagorean Theorem determining distance to the horizon being 1.23 times the square root of the height in feet, the NYC skyline should be invisible behind 170 feet of curved Earth.
Earth is not a spinning ball
Flat Earth Infrared Camera - Hundred of miles with no curve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5RJhRNWCMo&t=608s
2nd Law of Thermodynamics: Can't have + Pressure against a vaccuum: https://www.youtube....suvdGYCY&t=500s
Astronauts on wires / Chromakey Technology: https://www.youtube....h?v=x6XeELc3QH8
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLltxIX4B8_URNUzDE2sXctnUAEXgEDDGn
http://www.atlantean...nning-ball.html
https://flatearthsci...t-earth-proofs/

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View Postwishcast_hater, on 05 November 2015 - 09:24 PM, said:

From Washington’s Rock in New Jersey, at just a 400 foot elevation, it is possible on a clear day to see the skylines of both New York and Philadelphia in opposite directions at the same time covering a total distance of 120 miles! If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, both of these skylines should be hidden behind over 800 feet of Earth’s curvature.

The New York City skyline is clearly visible from Harriman State Park’s Bear Mountain 60 miles away. If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, viewing from Bear Mountain’s 1,283 foot summit, the Pythagorean Theorem determining distance to the horizon being 1.23 times the square root of the height in feet, the NYC skyline should be invisible behind 170 feet of curved Earth.

One reason why things are visible further away than you would expect is light refraction. The Pythagorean Theorem does not take this into account.
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View Postweatherbowl, on 06 November 2015 - 06:50 PM, said:



One reason why things are visible further away than you would expect is light refraction. The Pythagorean Theorem does not take this into account.

Also the earth is not a perfect sphere. So that must also be taken into consideration.
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Wow light refraction is the answer? The earth is not a perfect sphere but regardless of that we shouldn't be seeing cities, lighthouses or boats off in the distance because they are supposedly hidden behind the curve of the earth but yet we do. The math doesn't lie or does it? I have never seen a lighthouse off in the distance leaning away from me or a boat on the horizon tipping forward as it moves out of sight. I don't look out a plane window and look down to see the horizon either.

Just curious why every photo from NASA the earth looks perfectly round if the earth is some spheroid shape. Whats even more amazing is that we maybe have 2 supposed images of the earth from NASA, everything else is a composite image or a CGI rendering.
Earth is not a spinning ball
Flat Earth Infrared Camera - Hundred of miles with no curve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5RJhRNWCMo&t=608s
2nd Law of Thermodynamics: Can't have + Pressure against a vaccuum: https://www.youtube....suvdGYCY&t=500s
Astronauts on wires / Chromakey Technology: https://www.youtube....h?v=x6XeELc3QH8
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLltxIX4B8_URNUzDE2sXctnUAEXgEDDGn
http://www.atlantean...nning-ball.html
https://flatearthsci...t-earth-proofs/

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View Postwishcast_hater, on 07 November 2015 - 01:50 PM, said:

Wow light refraction is the answer? The earth is not a perfect sphere but regardless of that we shouldn't be seeing cities, lighthouses or boats off in the distance because they are supposedly hidden behind the curve of the earth but yet we do. The math doesn't lie or does it? I have never seen a lighthouse off in the distance leaning away from me or a boat on the horizon tipping forward as it moves out of sight. I don't look out a plane window and look down to see the horizon either.

Just curious why every photo from NASA the earth looks perfectly round if the earth is some spheroid shape. Whats even more amazing is that we maybe have 2 supposed images of the earth from NASA, everything else is a composite image or a CGI rendering.

Lets forget the math, it's complicated anyway. Here are some things that, I think, prove the earth is not flat.

Aristotle argued for a spherical earth, for these reasons:
  • The gradual disappearance of ships over the horizon, the tops of the sails disappearing last.
  • The shape of the curved shadow of the earth on the moon during eclipses.
  • The variation of the sun's elevation with latitude. (This was the basis of Eratosthenes' measurement.)
  • The variation of a star's elevation with latitude. The fact that one sees new stars as one moves north or south on the earth's surface.

Another one is flying in a plane. If the earth were flat what would happen when the plane reaches the end.
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By the way I was curious why you could see NYC from Bear Mountain State Park because as you mention it didn't formulate correctly. However Bear Mountain State Park is closer to 40 something miles due north of Manhattan, not 60. If you put that in the formula and add a little light refraction it makes sense. Also take into account when you see the Manhattan skyline you are probably seeing the buildings about half way up or more. So you don't see the lower portion of the buildings because of earth's curvature.
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If you look at the flat earth map, that the USGS uses as their official map, you will see that planes don't get anywhere near the edge. I challenge you to dig up one photo where a mountain, a 10 story building or 100 story building is covered at the bottom due to the curvature of the earth. They simply don't exist. If you watch a ship sail out of view with your natural eyes and then use binoculars you will see the ship again and it's not sinking below the curvature of the earth.



You will also never find A real photograph of the earth from space. Not a single one from some distant satellite. It's all composite CGI and NASA admits to that.

A flat earth also supports the sun being higher in the sky at different locations, that is not something exclusive with a ball earth.

I cannot prove to you the earth is flat no more than you can prove to me the earth is round. In fact all the information regarding the earth and how it looks comes from NASA and nowhere else. Just because something was taught to you since birth certainly does not make it true. Question everything. Believe me I was skeptical and laughed at the very thought of the earth being flat, but now after hearing the other side I believe they have a stronger argument. I am not ashamed to be labeled as a nut job.

https://youtu.be/J6CPrGHpmMs
Earth is not a spinning ball
Flat Earth Infrared Camera - Hundred of miles with no curve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5RJhRNWCMo&t=608s
2nd Law of Thermodynamics: Can't have + Pressure against a vaccuum: https://www.youtube....suvdGYCY&t=500s
Astronauts on wires / Chromakey Technology: https://www.youtube....h?v=x6XeELc3QH8
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLltxIX4B8_URNUzDE2sXctnUAEXgEDDGn
http://www.atlantean...nning-ball.html
https://flatearthsci...t-earth-proofs/

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View Postwishcast_hater, on 07 November 2015 - 09:33 PM, said:

If you look at the flat earth map, that the USGS uses as their official map, you will see that planes don't get anywhere near the edge. I challenge you to dig up one photo where a mountain, a 10 story building or 100 story building is covered at the bottom due to the curvature of the earth. They simply don't exist. If you watch a ship sail out of view with your natural eyes and then use binoculars you will see the ship again and it's not sinking below the curvature of the earth.



You will also never find A real photograph of the earth from space. Not a single one from some distant satellite. It's all composite CGI and NASA admits to that.

A flat earth also supports the sun being higher in the sky at different locations, that is not something exclusive with a ball earth.

I cannot prove to you the earth is flat no more than you can prove to me the earth is round. In fact all the information regarding the earth and how it looks comes from NASA and nowhere else. Just because something was taught to you since birth certainly does not make it true. Question everything. Believe me I was skeptical and laughed at the very thought of the earth being flat, but now after hearing the other side I believe they have a stronger argument. I am not ashamed to be labeled as a nut job.

https://youtu.be/J6CPrGHpmMs

Could you elaborate on this. Are you saying the edge is so far away it can't be reached or am I missing your point?

How do you explain the eclipse shadow or seeing different parts of the sky from different areas of earth.
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What about the international space station and rockets circling the earth. I guess it was all made up, the pictures are fake. The astronauts all lied to us about what they see. Don't folks travel around the world and end up back home without reaching the edge, just saying.

By the way, when I think I have been having a discussion about whether the earth is flat or round, I know one thing for sure, the weather must be real boring.:) Actually it has been interesting and I have learned some things along the way.
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View Postwishcast_hater, on 05 November 2015 - 08:40 AM, said:

I never questioned the earth being round until today, I challenge you to watch this ENTIRE video and not have the seed of doubt planted in your mind.

https://www.youtube....h?v=h5i_iDyUTCg

The video belongs in the dump. Please/ please tell me you posted this for laughs only. Yikes.
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Eclipse happening without sun moon and earth aligned. I wish some of you would put your pre-conceived ideas and everything you been taught on hold and just entertain the possibility. The answers are out there

No one trusts the government, yet we lap up everything in the news, all the stories they put out without question.

The edge is not far away that we cannot reach it. We have, and all the governments made a treaty in 1959 that no one can go. Sure you can visit the outer edge but you cannot venture deep within. The great explorer Admiral Richard E Byrd himself said that the resources on Antartica were far more plentiful than anywhere else in the world. Look up his expeditions. All of a sudden it has become the forbidden zone LONG before the environmentalist movement began. I'm sure most of you will just take whatever WIKI tells you and leave it at that but there is more to it.

Why are all flights from the Southern Hemisphere once they go over water disappear from flight trackers and then magically reappear an hour or so before they hit there destination? They use GPS and yet once they drop off the log turns to approximate or estimated. Investigate.
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Flat Earth Infrared Camera - Hundred of miles with no curve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5RJhRNWCMo&t=608s
2nd Law of Thermodynamics: Can't have + Pressure against a vaccuum: https://www.youtube....suvdGYCY&t=500s
Astronauts on wires / Chromakey Technology: https://www.youtube....h?v=x6XeELc3QH8
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLltxIX4B8_URNUzDE2sXctnUAEXgEDDGn
http://www.atlantean...nning-ball.html
https://flatearthsci...t-earth-proofs/

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View Postrobbbs, on 07 November 2015 - 11:30 PM, said:

The video belongs in the dump. Please/ please tell me you posted this for laughs only. Yikes.

This is what I have been thinking all along and I was the only gullible one to go along with it.
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View Postrobbbs, on 07 November 2015 - 11:30 PM, said:

The video belongs in the dump. Please/ please tell me you posted this for laughs only. Yikes.

In other news...I am hearing about people falling off the face of the earth. Lol...jk.

View Postweatherbowl, on 08 November 2015 - 07:53 AM, said:

This is what I have been thinking all along and I was the only gullible one to go along with it.

I was tempted, but I have too much other work going on.
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View Postwishcast_hater, on 07 November 2015 - 01:50 PM, said:

Wow light refraction is the answer? The earth is not a perfect sphere but regardless of that we shouldn't be seeing cities, lighthouses or boats off in the distance because they are supposedly hidden behind the curve of the earth but yet we do. The math doesn't lie or does it? I have never seen a lighthouse off in the distance leaning away from me or a boat on the horizon tipping forward as it moves out of sight. I don't look out a plane window and look down to see the horizon either.

Just curious why every photo from NASA the earth looks perfectly round if the earth is some spheroid shape. Whats even more amazing is that we maybe have 2 supposed images of the earth from NASA, everything else is a composite image or a CGI rendering.

So if the earth is flat, why cant I see Europe while standing on the beach in Cape Cod?

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View Postrobbbs, on 07 November 2015 - 11:30 PM, said:

The video belongs in the dump. Please/ please tell me you posted this for laughs only. Yikes.

I think its real. Look at the posts he has made about the Paris bombings and conspiracy theories.....





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