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So Trump supporter Tom Ricketts shut down Gothamist and DNAinfo last week. Where's the outrage from conservatives? I hear complaining about how liberal the media is (and granted, I think the money trail backs up claims about most major media having a liberal bias), but with that being the case conservatives should be absolutely furious that Ricketts shut down Gothamist and DNAinfo.
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View Postthundersleet, on 07 November 2017 - 06:52 PM, said:

So Trump supporter Tom Ricketts shut down Gothamist and DNAinfo last week. Where's the outrage from conservatives? I hear complaining about how liberal the media is (and granted, I think the money trail backs up claims about most major media having a liberal bias), but with that being the case conservatives should be absolutely furious that Ricketts shut down Gothamist and DNAinfo.


Classic liberal response, just enough facts to create the illusion there is something evil. The fact is after the editorial staff voted to unionze, the OWNER decided to shut down the operation. Thatís far from a group like Antifa silencing conservative speakers.

I realize that capitalism is a tough concept when you beleive everyone should be equal and get a trophy, but decisions like unionizing sometimes have unintended consequences.

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joe rickets and hes the owner

so buy it and run it!!

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ALL OVER THE NEWS....:/

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View Postcarribeanpirate, on 08 November 2017 - 05:26 AM, said:

Classic liberal response, just enough facts to create the illusion there is something evil. The fact is after the editorial staff voted to unionze, the OWNER decided to shut down the operation. That's far from a group like Antifa silencing conservative speakers.

I realize that capitalism is a tough concept when you beleive everyone should be equal and get a trophy, but decisions like unionizing sometimes have unintended consequences.

Which is technically not illegal, but goes into the Hillary Clinton playbook of finding loopholes around legalities. It is illegal to threaten to fire someone who wants to join a union (or fire someone for joining a union), but shutting down an organization is different from firing someone.

So a Trump supporter shuts down two media organizations by going into the Clinton playbook of skating around legalities, and making the liberal media even more liberal.
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wonder how many more are written to incite more HATE?
wonder if the political adds in edison and hoboken were similar to this?

http://www.cnn.com/2...trnd/index.html

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View Postthundersleet, on 08 November 2017 - 11:14 PM, said:

Which is technically not illegal, but goes into the Hillary Clinton playbook of finding loopholes around legalities. It is illegal to threaten to fire someone who wants to join a union (or fire someone for joining a union), but shutting down an organization is different from firing someone.

So a Trump supporter shuts down two media organizations by going into the Clinton playbook of skating around legalities, and making the liberal media even more liberal.

Take politics out of it, its a business decision. Ricketts is in business to make money. When unions come in, they demand higher wages, more benefits, etc. That changes the financial picture of a company. No different than the business I work for. If costs increase to the point where we no longer make money, it either gets sold, declares bankruptcy to try and survive or closes. Ricketts decided to close. I'm sure there are plenty of stories like this in the internet world, conservative and liberal websites alike. Its not silencing a voice, its business.

Now, if you told me Ricketts bought the company and shortly thereafter decided to close it, yes, that would bother me. In my opinion, it was purely a business decision, nothing more. But think about it.....He started this website 7-8 years ago and you think he is closing it now to silence people? I get the non-profit world does not work like this, but corporate worlds do. You're looking for a conspiracy that doesnt exist. Its simple really....the workers decided to take an action that changed the profitability model for the company.The company responded by doing its financial analysis and made a decision that the business was no longer worth the expense.

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View Postvascudave, on 09 November 2017 - 06:46 AM, said:

wonder how many more are written to incite more HATE?
wonder if the political adds in edison and hoboken were similar to this?

http://www.cnn.com/2...trnd/index.html
It is a fair, but I'm sure off limits question in the minds of many. And it's easy to think that in areas like Edison and Hoboken, racist propaganda would generate more sympathy votes for minority candidates than it would votes against.
Either way the people responsible for putting out those fliers are of the lowest form.
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View Postgpsnavigator, on 09 November 2017 - 09:04 AM, said:


It is a fair, but I'm sure off limits question in the minds of many. And it's easy to think that in areas like Edison and Hoboken, racist propaganda would generate more sympathy votes for minority candidates than it would votes against.
Either way the people responsible for putting out those fliers are of the lowest form.
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View Postcarribeanpirate, on 09 November 2017 - 07:14 AM, said:

Take politics out of it, its a business decision. Ricketts is in business to make money. When unions come in, they demand higher wages, more benefits, etc. That changes the financial picture of a company. No different than the business I work for. If costs increase to the point where we no longer make money, it either gets sold, declares bankruptcy to try and survive or closes. Ricketts decided to close. I'm sure there are plenty of stories like this in the internet world, conservative and liberal websites alike. Its not silencing a voice, its business.

Now, if you told me Ricketts bought the company and shortly thereafter decided to close it, yes, that would bother me. In my opinion, it was purely a business decision, nothing more. But think about it.....He started this website 7-8 years ago and you think he is closing it now to silence people? I get the non-profit world does not work like this, but corporate worlds do. You're looking for a conspiracy that doesnt exist. Its simple really....the workers decided to take an action that changed the profitability model for the company.The company responded by doing its financial analysis and made a decision that the business was no longer worth the expense.

He closed those two outlets a week after the writers decided to unionize. He didn't even have Gothamist/DNAinfo open long enough to see what sort of money he'd make (or not make) with people unionized.
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So CNN is having Lavar Ball on tonight to discuss his "fued" with Trump. CNN will give airtime to anyone who disagrees loudly with Trump. Having a loudmouth like Ball on shows how far CNN has fallen as a news organization.

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View Postcarribeanpirate, on 20 November 2017 - 10:08 AM, said:

So CNN is having Lavar Ball on tonight to discuss his "fued" with Trump. CNN will give airtime to anyone who disagrees loudly with Trump. Having a loudmouth like Ball on shows how far CNN has fallen as a news organization.
they truly are a joke
they should let ball know that he wouldn't see his son for 10 years for the "its just sunglasses" theft.

even if I had much distain for trump I wouldn't be able to tolerate cnn for that long
I don't know how tapper, Anderson, lemon et al do it??


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View Postcarribeanpirate, on 20 November 2017 - 10:08 AM, said:

So CNN is having Lavar Ball on tonight to discuss his "fued" with Trump. CNN will give airtime to anyone who disagrees loudly with Trump. Having a loudmouth like Ball on shows how far CNN has fallen as a news organization.
Trump is right about one thing - CNN has become fake news and is very disappointing to listen to lately. Jake Tapper might be the worst one.
The irony being, beyond screaming over Russia, recent sex allegations, and the usual problems over diversity, no one is talking about the many other issues of interest to progressives (and maybe conservatives too). Saving healthcare, the recent keystone pipeline spill, drug addiction, raising wages, helping the environment, rebuilding infrastructure, etc. Other things that matter a whole lot too.

Their own outrage driven propaganda is drowning out most of their own causes. I'm not suggesting we shouldn't be outraged over sexual harrassment and assault, because it is an outrage, but do think that conversation should be being held a little differently than currently is.
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View Postgpsnavigator, on 20 November 2017 - 10:43 AM, said:

Trump is right about one thing - CNN has become fake news and is very disappointing to listen to lately. Jake Tapper might be the worst one.
The irony being, beyond screaming over Russia, recent sex allegations, and the usual problems over diversity, no one is talking about the many other issues of interest to progressives (and maybe conservatives too). Saving healthcare, the recent keystone pipeline spill, drug addiction, raising wages, helping the environment, rebuilding infrastructure, etc. Other things that matter a whole lot too.

Their own outrage driven propaganda is drowning out most of their own causes. I'm not suggesting we shouldn't be outraged over sexual harrassment and assault, because it is an outrage, but do think that conversation should be being held a little differently than currently is.

You make a good point...The Keystone spill was largely ignored, which should have been a huge story.

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Good lord, it was a rough week for the media. They are not doing themselves any favors in debunking the "fake news" narrative. First, Brian Ross with a slanted story that he had to retract, a CNN report that had to be retracted and now a Washington Post story that had to be retracted.

Folks, this resistance movement and media involvement should scare the living s**t out of everyone of us. If the media is in bed with one party in a two party system, it is no different than state run media in a country like N. Korea. We all laugh at those reports where they show what a great country it is, but how is that any different than our media reporting the way they do today, majority positive coverage for Democrats, majority negative coverage for Republicans.

Laugh all you want at N. Korea.....our mainstream media is not much different.





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