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Sometimes I think Obama would have the guys who killed our own men over for a five star dinner and a Broadway play. Everytime I think we reach a low in this administration, we go lower. So now we're protecting the mastermind of the Fallujah attacks in which 4 blackwater security guards were killed, burned, dragged thru the streets and then hung from a bridge. But a Seal punches the guy in the stomach after capturing him and he's going to get a prosecution. What's even worse is we know the al quaeda handbook calls for those captured to claim they were abused. So even in cases where nothing happens we'd likely have to do an investigation given the way the political front acts now. This admin thinks of everything from the 9/11 attacks to an overseas brutal killing of the military or those associated with it like a candy store robbery. They'd probably look to capture and try in public court the Japanese pilots that bombed Pearl Harbor if it happened on their watch. As for the punch in the stomach, I'm certain that would have seemed like a lip kiss compared to what many Americans would have wanted to do to this terrorist. Absurd and getting more and more absurd every day.
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This whole damn thing is a shame, the sad part is they'll probably get off on the charges of dereliction of duty, but the charges of lying to investigators and hindering an investigation will stick and for that they'll be drummed out..
I know I'm firing off a letter to the White House right now on their website.
I know I'm firing off a letter to the White House right now on their website.
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The older I get the more pissed I get at how the US does everything half ***!!!!!!! If you are going to fight a war. Go full tilt and win it! Its BS! Did you read that they caught the taliban's number 2 man. Well now what, are we going to feed him and ask him to please help us. You cant waterboard him, hurt him, yell at him, depribe him of sleep etc. Its a F@CKIN joke.
The I go and read this today..
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...6EepegD9E7IN900
Former Gitmo detainee said running Afghan battles
By KATHY GANNON (AP) – 14 hours ago
LASHKAR GAH, Afghanistan — A man freed from Guantanamo more than two years ago after he claimed he only wanted to go home and help his family is now a senior commander running Taliban resistance to the U.S.-led offensive in southern Afghanistan, two senior Afghan intelligence officials say.
Abdul Qayyum is also seen as a leading candidate to be the next No. 2 in the Afghan Taliban hierarchy, said the officials, interviewed last week by The Associated Press.
The story of Abdul Qayyum could add to the complications President Barack Obama is facing in fulfilling his pledge to close the prison at Guantanamo by sending some prisoners back to their home countries or to other willing nations, while putting others on trial.
U.S. intelligence asserts that 20 percent of suspects released from the Guantanamo Bay prison have returned to the fight and the number has been steadily increasing.
Qayyum's key aide in plotting attacks on Afghan and international forces is another former Guantanamo prisoner, said the Afghan intelligence officials as well as a former Helmand governor, Sher Mohammed Akundzada. Abdul Rauf, who told his U.S. interrogators he had only loose connections to the Taliban, spent time in an Afghan jail before being freed last year.
He rejoined the Taliban, they said. Akundzada said he warned authorities against releasing both him and Qayyum.
Like Qayyum, Rauf is from Helmand province in southern Afghanistan. During the Taliban's rule, which ended in late 2001, Rauf was a corps commander in the western province of Herat and in the Afghan capital, Kabul, said Akhundzada.
The intelligence officials were interviewed in Helmand, where the Taliban control several districts, and spoke on condition of anonymity lest they attract the militia's attention.
they said Qayyum was given charge of the military campaign in the south about 14 months ago, soon after his release from the Afghan jail to which he had been transferred from Guantanamo. That includes managing the battle for the town of Marjah, where NATO troops are flushing out remaining militants.
Qayyum, whose Taliban nom de guerre is Qayyum Zakir, is thought to be running operations from the Pakistani border city of Quetta. A Pakistani newspaper report that he was recently arrested was denied by Abdul Razik, a former governor of Kajaki, Qayyum's home district, which is under extensive Taliban control.
One of the intelligence officials also questioned the report. He said a house Qayyum was in was raided about two weeks ago and three assistants were arrested but he escaped. A week ago he was seen in Pishin, a Pakistani border town about 30 miles (50 kilometers) from Quetta, the official said.
"He's smart and he is brutal," said Abdul Razik. "He will withdraw his soldiers to fight another day," he said, referring to the Marjah campaign.
Qayyum, who is about 36 years old, is close to the Taliban's spiritual leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar. He has been tipped as a candidate to replace the militia's second-in-command, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, who was among several Taliban leaders arrested recently in Pakistan.
A Taliban commander in the 1990s who was notorious for brutality and summary executions, Qayyum was captured in the 2001 U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan and taken to Guantanamo. According to interrogation transcripts, he identified himself to his American captors by his father's name, Abdullah Ghulam Rasoul, and said he had been conscripted by the Taliban but left at the first opportunity.
According to a military transcript of his subsequent hearing, he said, "I want to go back home and join my family and work in my land and help my family." In December 2007 he was among 13 Afghan prisoners released to the Afghan government and held in Pul-e-Charkhi jail, on the eastern edge of the Kabul.
A year later he was set free, despite warnings he would return to the Taliban, said Akundzada.
Afghanistan's deputy attorney general said Qayyum went before an Afghan court, which ruled he had served his time. The U.S.-backed Afghan government generally gets a promise from former Guantanamo prisoners that they won't join the armed opposition. Qayyum made no such promise.
"The court decided time served was enough," said Faqir Ahmed Faqiryar. "When the court is involved there is no need to promise anything."
Abdul Razik, who knows the family well, said he wrote to Qayyum's father warning him to keep his son under control. "He told me, 'I have no control over him.' "
Through interviews from Kabul to Helmand province, the AP traced Qayyum's steps from the Afghan prison, across the border into Pakistan, through Peshawar to Quetta, back into Afghanistan to his village of Soply, and then to Quetta again.
A loner who trusts few people, his only company was a driver known to the Taliban and who has since been arrested, Razik said.
In Soply, his native village in Helmand, Qayyum stayed for two days with his sister, according to a neighbor who saw him outside the house and was quickly warned to "say nothing." He returned to Quetta, from where he oversees four southern provinces: Helmand, Kandahar, Uruzgan and Zabul, said Sharifuddin, a former Taliban official who lives near Soply, Qayyum's village. His information was confirmed by Razik and the intelligence officials interviewed by the AP.
"From his houses in Quetta he appoints the (Taliban) governors, the district governors," Sharifuddin said. "Nothing happens in these provinces without his approval."
Associated Press Writer Pauline Jelinek contributed to this report from Washington.
The I go and read this today..
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...6EepegD9E7IN900
Former Gitmo detainee said running Afghan battles
By KATHY GANNON (AP) – 14 hours ago
LASHKAR GAH, Afghanistan — A man freed from Guantanamo more than two years ago after he claimed he only wanted to go home and help his family is now a senior commander running Taliban resistance to the U.S.-led offensive in southern Afghanistan, two senior Afghan intelligence officials say.
Abdul Qayyum is also seen as a leading candidate to be the next No. 2 in the Afghan Taliban hierarchy, said the officials, interviewed last week by The Associated Press.
The story of Abdul Qayyum could add to the complications President Barack Obama is facing in fulfilling his pledge to close the prison at Guantanamo by sending some prisoners back to their home countries or to other willing nations, while putting others on trial.
U.S. intelligence asserts that 20 percent of suspects released from the Guantanamo Bay prison have returned to the fight and the number has been steadily increasing.
Qayyum's key aide in plotting attacks on Afghan and international forces is another former Guantanamo prisoner, said the Afghan intelligence officials as well as a former Helmand governor, Sher Mohammed Akundzada. Abdul Rauf, who told his U.S. interrogators he had only loose connections to the Taliban, spent time in an Afghan jail before being freed last year.
He rejoined the Taliban, they said. Akundzada said he warned authorities against releasing both him and Qayyum.
Like Qayyum, Rauf is from Helmand province in southern Afghanistan. During the Taliban's rule, which ended in late 2001, Rauf was a corps commander in the western province of Herat and in the Afghan capital, Kabul, said Akhundzada.
The intelligence officials were interviewed in Helmand, where the Taliban control several districts, and spoke on condition of anonymity lest they attract the militia's attention.
they said Qayyum was given charge of the military campaign in the south about 14 months ago, soon after his release from the Afghan jail to which he had been transferred from Guantanamo. That includes managing the battle for the town of Marjah, where NATO troops are flushing out remaining militants.
Qayyum, whose Taliban nom de guerre is Qayyum Zakir, is thought to be running operations from the Pakistani border city of Quetta. A Pakistani newspaper report that he was recently arrested was denied by Abdul Razik, a former governor of Kajaki, Qayyum's home district, which is under extensive Taliban control.
One of the intelligence officials also questioned the report. He said a house Qayyum was in was raided about two weeks ago and three assistants were arrested but he escaped. A week ago he was seen in Pishin, a Pakistani border town about 30 miles (50 kilometers) from Quetta, the official said.
"He's smart and he is brutal," said Abdul Razik. "He will withdraw his soldiers to fight another day," he said, referring to the Marjah campaign.
Qayyum, who is about 36 years old, is close to the Taliban's spiritual leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar. He has been tipped as a candidate to replace the militia's second-in-command, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, who was among several Taliban leaders arrested recently in Pakistan.
A Taliban commander in the 1990s who was notorious for brutality and summary executions, Qayyum was captured in the 2001 U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan and taken to Guantanamo. According to interrogation transcripts, he identified himself to his American captors by his father's name, Abdullah Ghulam Rasoul, and said he had been conscripted by the Taliban but left at the first opportunity.
According to a military transcript of his subsequent hearing, he said, "I want to go back home and join my family and work in my land and help my family." In December 2007 he was among 13 Afghan prisoners released to the Afghan government and held in Pul-e-Charkhi jail, on the eastern edge of the Kabul.
A year later he was set free, despite warnings he would return to the Taliban, said Akundzada.
Afghanistan's deputy attorney general said Qayyum went before an Afghan court, which ruled he had served his time. The U.S.-backed Afghan government generally gets a promise from former Guantanamo prisoners that they won't join the armed opposition. Qayyum made no such promise.
"The court decided time served was enough," said Faqir Ahmed Faqiryar. "When the court is involved there is no need to promise anything."
Abdul Razik, who knows the family well, said he wrote to Qayyum's father warning him to keep his son under control. "He told me, 'I have no control over him.' "
Through interviews from Kabul to Helmand province, the AP traced Qayyum's steps from the Afghan prison, across the border into Pakistan, through Peshawar to Quetta, back into Afghanistan to his village of Soply, and then to Quetta again.
A loner who trusts few people, his only company was a driver known to the Taliban and who has since been arrested, Razik said.
In Soply, his native village in Helmand, Qayyum stayed for two days with his sister, according to a neighbor who saw him outside the house and was quickly warned to "say nothing." He returned to Quetta, from where he oversees four southern provinces: Helmand, Kandahar, Uruzgan and Zabul, said Sharifuddin, a former Taliban official who lives near Soply, Qayyum's village. His information was confirmed by Razik and the intelligence officials interviewed by the AP.
"From his houses in Quetta he appoints the (Taliban) governors, the district governors," Sharifuddin said. "Nothing happens in these provinces without his approval."
Associated Press Writer Pauline Jelinek contributed to this report from Washington.
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lab94, on Mar 4 2010, 01:07 PM, said:
The older I get the more pissed I get at how the US does everything half ***!!!!!!! If you are going to fight a war. Go full tilt and win it! Its BS! Did you read that they caught the taliban's number 2 man. Well now what, are we going to feed him and ask him to please help us. You cant waterboard him, hurt him, yell at him, depribe him of sleep etc. Its a F@CKIN joke.
The I go and read this today..
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...6EepegD9E7IN900
Former Gitmo detainee said running Afghan battles
By KATHY GANNON (AP) – 14 hours ago
LASHKAR GAH, Afghanistan — A man freed from Guantanamo more than two years ago after he claimed he only wanted to go home and help his family is now a senior commander running Taliban resistance to the U.S.-led offensive in southern Afghanistan, two senior Afghan intelligence officials say.
Abdul Qayyum is also seen as a leading candidate to be the next No. 2 in the Afghan Taliban hierarchy, said the officials, interviewed last week by The Associated Press.
The story of Abdul Qayyum could add to the complications President Barack Obama is facing in fulfilling his pledge to close the prison at Guantanamo by sending some prisoners back to their home countries or to other willing nations, while putting others on trial.
U.S. intelligence asserts that 20 percent of suspects released from the Guantanamo Bay prison have returned to the fight and the number has been steadily increasing.
Qayyum's key aide in plotting attacks on Afghan and international forces is another former Guantanamo prisoner, said the Afghan intelligence officials as well as a former Helmand governor, Sher Mohammed Akundzada. Abdul Rauf, who told his U.S. interrogators he had only loose connections to the Taliban, spent time in an Afghan jail before being freed last year.
He rejoined the Taliban, they said. Akundzada said he warned authorities against releasing both him and Qayyum.
Like Qayyum, Rauf is from Helmand province in southern Afghanistan. During the Taliban's rule, which ended in late 2001, Rauf was a corps commander in the western province of Herat and in the Afghan capital, Kabul, said Akhundzada.
The intelligence officials were interviewed in Helmand, where the Taliban control several districts, and spoke on condition of anonymity lest they attract the militia's attention.
they said Qayyum was given charge of the military campaign in the south about 14 months ago, soon after his release from the Afghan jail to which he had been transferred from Guantanamo. That includes managing the battle for the town of Marjah, where NATO troops are flushing out remaining militants.
Qayyum, whose Taliban nom de guerre is Qayyum Zakir, is thought to be running operations from the Pakistani border city of Quetta. A Pakistani newspaper report that he was recently arrested was denied by Abdul Razik, a former governor of Kajaki, Qayyum's home district, which is under extensive Taliban control.
One of the intelligence officials also questioned the report. He said a house Qayyum was in was raided about two weeks ago and three assistants were arrested but he escaped. A week ago he was seen in Pishin, a Pakistani border town about 30 miles (50 kilometers) from Quetta, the official said.
"He's smart and he is brutal," said Abdul Razik. "He will withdraw his soldiers to fight another day," he said, referring to the Marjah campaign.
Qayyum, who is about 36 years old, is close to the Taliban's spiritual leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar. He has been tipped as a candidate to replace the militia's second-in-command, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, who was among several Taliban leaders arrested recently in Pakistan.
A Taliban commander in the 1990s who was notorious for brutality and summary executions, Qayyum was captured in the 2001 U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan and taken to Guantanamo. According to interrogation transcripts, he identified himself to his American captors by his father's name, Abdullah Ghulam Rasoul, and said he had been conscripted by the Taliban but left at the first opportunity.
According to a military transcript of his subsequent hearing, he said, "I want to go back home and join my family and work in my land and help my family." In December 2007 he was among 13 Afghan prisoners released to the Afghan government and held in Pul-e-Charkhi jail, on the eastern edge of the Kabul.
A year later he was set free, despite warnings he would return to the Taliban, said Akundzada.
Afghanistan's deputy attorney general said Qayyum went before an Afghan court, which ruled he had served his time. The U.S.-backed Afghan government generally gets a promise from former Guantanamo prisoners that they won't join the armed opposition. Qayyum made no such promise.
"The court decided time served was enough," said Faqir Ahmed Faqiryar. "When the court is involved there is no need to promise anything."
Abdul Razik, who knows the family well, said he wrote to Qayyum's father warning him to keep his son under control. "He told me, 'I have no control over him.' "
Through interviews from Kabul to Helmand province, the AP traced Qayyum's steps from the Afghan prison, across the border into Pakistan, through Peshawar to Quetta, back into Afghanistan to his village of Soply, and then to Quetta again.
A loner who trusts few people, his only company was a driver known to the Taliban and who has since been arrested, Razik said.
In Soply, his native village in Helmand, Qayyum stayed for two days with his sister, according to a neighbor who saw him outside the house and was quickly warned to "say nothing." He returned to Quetta, from where he oversees four southern provinces: Helmand, Kandahar, Uruzgan and Zabul, said Sharifuddin, a former Taliban official who lives near Soply, Qayyum's village. His information was confirmed by Razik and the intelligence officials interviewed by the AP.
"From his houses in Quetta he appoints the (Taliban) governors, the district governors," Sharifuddin said. "Nothing happens in these provinces without his approval."
Associated Press Writer Pauline Jelinek contributed to this report from Washington.
The I go and read this today..
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...6EepegD9E7IN900
Former Gitmo detainee said running Afghan battles
By KATHY GANNON (AP) – 14 hours ago
LASHKAR GAH, Afghanistan — A man freed from Guantanamo more than two years ago after he claimed he only wanted to go home and help his family is now a senior commander running Taliban resistance to the U.S.-led offensive in southern Afghanistan, two senior Afghan intelligence officials say.
Abdul Qayyum is also seen as a leading candidate to be the next No. 2 in the Afghan Taliban hierarchy, said the officials, interviewed last week by The Associated Press.
The story of Abdul Qayyum could add to the complications President Barack Obama is facing in fulfilling his pledge to close the prison at Guantanamo by sending some prisoners back to their home countries or to other willing nations, while putting others on trial.
U.S. intelligence asserts that 20 percent of suspects released from the Guantanamo Bay prison have returned to the fight and the number has been steadily increasing.
Qayyum's key aide in plotting attacks on Afghan and international forces is another former Guantanamo prisoner, said the Afghan intelligence officials as well as a former Helmand governor, Sher Mohammed Akundzada. Abdul Rauf, who told his U.S. interrogators he had only loose connections to the Taliban, spent time in an Afghan jail before being freed last year.
He rejoined the Taliban, they said. Akundzada said he warned authorities against releasing both him and Qayyum.
Like Qayyum, Rauf is from Helmand province in southern Afghanistan. During the Taliban's rule, which ended in late 2001, Rauf was a corps commander in the western province of Herat and in the Afghan capital, Kabul, said Akhundzada.
The intelligence officials were interviewed in Helmand, where the Taliban control several districts, and spoke on condition of anonymity lest they attract the militia's attention.
they said Qayyum was given charge of the military campaign in the south about 14 months ago, soon after his release from the Afghan jail to which he had been transferred from Guantanamo. That includes managing the battle for the town of Marjah, where NATO troops are flushing out remaining militants.
Qayyum, whose Taliban nom de guerre is Qayyum Zakir, is thought to be running operations from the Pakistani border city of Quetta. A Pakistani newspaper report that he was recently arrested was denied by Abdul Razik, a former governor of Kajaki, Qayyum's home district, which is under extensive Taliban control.
One of the intelligence officials also questioned the report. He said a house Qayyum was in was raided about two weeks ago and three assistants were arrested but he escaped. A week ago he was seen in Pishin, a Pakistani border town about 30 miles (50 kilometers) from Quetta, the official said.
"He's smart and he is brutal," said Abdul Razik. "He will withdraw his soldiers to fight another day," he said, referring to the Marjah campaign.
Qayyum, who is about 36 years old, is close to the Taliban's spiritual leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar. He has been tipped as a candidate to replace the militia's second-in-command, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, who was among several Taliban leaders arrested recently in Pakistan.
A Taliban commander in the 1990s who was notorious for brutality and summary executions, Qayyum was captured in the 2001 U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan and taken to Guantanamo. According to interrogation transcripts, he identified himself to his American captors by his father's name, Abdullah Ghulam Rasoul, and said he had been conscripted by the Taliban but left at the first opportunity.
According to a military transcript of his subsequent hearing, he said, "I want to go back home and join my family and work in my land and help my family." In December 2007 he was among 13 Afghan prisoners released to the Afghan government and held in Pul-e-Charkhi jail, on the eastern edge of the Kabul.
A year later he was set free, despite warnings he would return to the Taliban, said Akundzada.
Afghanistan's deputy attorney general said Qayyum went before an Afghan court, which ruled he had served his time. The U.S.-backed Afghan government generally gets a promise from former Guantanamo prisoners that they won't join the armed opposition. Qayyum made no such promise.
"The court decided time served was enough," said Faqir Ahmed Faqiryar. "When the court is involved there is no need to promise anything."
Abdul Razik, who knows the family well, said he wrote to Qayyum's father warning him to keep his son under control. "He told me, 'I have no control over him.' "
Through interviews from Kabul to Helmand province, the AP traced Qayyum's steps from the Afghan prison, across the border into Pakistan, through Peshawar to Quetta, back into Afghanistan to his village of Soply, and then to Quetta again.
A loner who trusts few people, his only company was a driver known to the Taliban and who has since been arrested, Razik said.
In Soply, his native village in Helmand, Qayyum stayed for two days with his sister, according to a neighbor who saw him outside the house and was quickly warned to "say nothing." He returned to Quetta, from where he oversees four southern provinces: Helmand, Kandahar, Uruzgan and Zabul, said Sharifuddin, a former Taliban official who lives near Soply, Qayyum's village. His information was confirmed by Razik and the intelligence officials interviewed by the AP.
"From his houses in Quetta he appoints the (Taliban) governors, the district governors," Sharifuddin said. "Nothing happens in these provinces without his approval."
Associated Press Writer Pauline Jelinek contributed to this report from Washington.
Ah but you see Obama and Holder consider them innocent until proven guilty while a US defender that punches one of them in the stomach is guilty until proven innocent. And of course punching a terrorist in the stomach is worse than a terrorist intending to kill masses. This admin is so screwed up.
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I absolutely agree that we should be releasing all of the prisoners in Gitmo and letting them return back to their home countries. We just book them all on a special flight charted from El Al with a couple of those cheery "stewards" from Mossad.
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"LASHKAR GAH, Afghanistan — A man freed from Guantanamo more than two years ago after he claimed he only wanted to go home and help his family is now a senior commander running Taliban resistance to the U.S.-led offensive in southern Afghanistan, two senior Afghan intelligence officials say.
Abdul Qayyum is also seen as a leading candidate to be the next No. 2 in the Afghan Taliban hierarchy, said the officials, interviewed last week by The Associated Press."
Lab, Do you honestly think Obama and Holder learned a leson from something like this??? Given the pending prosecution the lesson they learned is let more of them go. Amazing stupidity here. We have a bunch of street smart terrorists playing war with a pair of bookworms who never got their clothes dirty.
Abdul Qayyum is also seen as a leading candidate to be the next No. 2 in the Afghan Taliban hierarchy, said the officials, interviewed last week by The Associated Press."
Lab, Do you honestly think Obama and Holder learned a leson from something like this??? Given the pending prosecution the lesson they learned is let more of them go. Amazing stupidity here. We have a bunch of street smart terrorists playing war with a pair of bookworms who never got their clothes dirty.
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icehater, on Mar 4 2010, 08:26 PM, said:
"LASHKAR GAH, Afghanistan — A man freed from Guantanamo more than two years ago after he claimed he only wanted to go home and help his family is now a senior commander running Taliban resistance to the U.S.-led offensive in southern Afghanistan, two senior Afghan intelligence officials say.
Abdul Qayyum is also seen as a leading candidate to be the next No. 2 in the Afghan Taliban hierarchy, said the officials, interviewed last week by The Associated Press."
Lab, Do you honestly think Obama and Holder learned a leson from something like this??? Given the pending prosecution the lesson they learned is let more of them go. Amazing stupidity here. We have a bunch of street smart terrorists playing war with a pair of bookworms who never got their clothes dirty.
Abdul Qayyum is also seen as a leading candidate to be the next No. 2 in the Afghan Taliban hierarchy, said the officials, interviewed last week by The Associated Press."
Lab, Do you honestly think Obama and Holder learned a leson from something like this??? Given the pending prosecution the lesson they learned is let more of them go. Amazing stupidity here. We have a bunch of street smart terrorists playing war with a pair of bookworms who never got their clothes dirty.
Just about sums it up; they have absolutely no clue how the real world works. Obama is an atrocious President on so many fronts. I hope the people who wanted Bush out so badly are happy now. Things are worse than ever now. Like they say, the grass isn't always greener...
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devilsfan0405, on Mar 4 2010, 10:37 PM, said:
Just about sums it up; they have absolutely no clue how the real world works. Obama is an atrocious President on so many fronts. I hope the people who wanted Bush out so badly are happy now. Things are worse than ever now. Like they say, the grass isn't always greener...
I definitely am. And I don't have the time right now to list all of my reasons.
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NittanyLion, on Mar 5 2010, 02:46 AM, said:
I definitely am. And I don't have the time right now to list all of my reasons.
looks like your list is complete like it is
.....bustin your balls mike! but really you have a list?
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NittanyLion, on Mar 5 2010, 01:46 AM, said:
I definitely am. And I don't have the time right now to list all of my reasons.
Mike,
Out of all the folks I know that voted for Obama, just about all think he's doing a lousy job, and a high majority have lost all confidence in him. I'd guess only about 2 in 10 that I know would vote for him again. In fact some are getting as disgusted with the Dms as they got with the Reps before this election. Pelosi certainly isn't doing her party any good. In this area of NJ you see impeach Obama folks in front of banks now. The view he and Holder took of 9/11 and a NYC trial has most folks down this way thinking he has a poor grasp of reality.
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Posted 05 March 2010 - 09:08 AM
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in all honesty, i dont care if our military punches the enemy in the face! boo hoo! they can do worse in my eyes they shouldn't be punished, unless it is against civilians. the sacrafice it takes to do what they do many will never know. imo things should be covered up/dropped. i know we are the ones that should uphold all morals etc. however a "pass" needs to be given to those that may have had a lapse of judgement in a foreign land against animals that try to kill them on a daily basis. put em on trial for this!! f- off to those that are doing this and to the administration for not stopping it!
"every little thing, gonna be alright."
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Posted 05 March 2010 - 10:32 AM
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vascudave, on Mar 5 2010, 07:44 AM, said:
looks like your list is complete like it is .....bustin your balls mike! but really you have a list?
.....bustin your balls mike! but really you have a list?Haha, no I don't keep a list, but I could make one!
icehater, on Mar 5 2010, 09:00 AM, said:
Mike,
Out of all the folks I know that voted for Obama, just about all think he's doing a lousy job, and a high majority have lost all confidence in him. I'd guess only about 2 in 10 that I know would vote for him again. In fact some are getting as disgusted with the Dms as they got with the Reps before this election. Pelosi certainly isn't doing her party any good. In this area of NJ you see impeach Obama folks in front of banks now. The view he and Holder took of 9/11 and a NYC trial has most folks down this way thinking he has a poor grasp of reality.
Out of all the folks I know that voted for Obama, just about all think he's doing a lousy job, and a high majority have lost all confidence in him. I'd guess only about 2 in 10 that I know would vote for him again. In fact some are getting as disgusted with the Dms as they got with the Reps before this election. Pelosi certainly isn't doing her party any good. In this area of NJ you see impeach Obama folks in front of banks now. The view he and Holder took of 9/11 and a NYC trial has most folks down this way thinking he has a poor grasp of reality.
While I don't think Obama is doing a great job, I do think he is doing better than the President we had for the past 8 years, and better than McCain would have done. I maintain the fact that Hilary Clinton was the best candidate for the job. Does this mean I agree with everything Obama has done? No.
I don't like Pelosi and Reid AT ALL and believe that they are seriously hurting the Democratic Party and if we want progress they need to be kicked out. I don't know why or how they became the leaders of this party. I don't believe they reflect or represent the Democrats of this country as a whole.
Now with that done, off to the Northeastern Storm Conference!
Mike
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South Burlington, VT
Elevation: 332 ft
Snowfall 2011-2012: 37.7"
Jonesville, VT
Elevation: 323 ft
Snowfall 2011-2012: 59.5"
The views expressed in this post are solely mine and do not necessarily reflect the views of the National Weather Service.
NWS Meteorologist
South Burlington, VT
Elevation: 332 ft
Snowfall 2011-2012: 37.7"
Jonesville, VT
Elevation: 323 ft
Snowfall 2011-2012: 59.5"
The views expressed in this post are solely mine and do not necessarily reflect the views of the National Weather Service.
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 11:57 AM
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icehater, on Mar 5 2010, 02:00 PM, said:
Mike,
Out of all the folks I know that voted for Obama, just about all think he's doing a lousy job, and a high majority have lost all confidence in him. I'd guess only about 2 in 10 that I know would vote for him again. In fact some are getting as disgusted with the Dms as they got with the Reps before this election. Pelosi certainly isn't doing her party any good. In this area of NJ you see impeach Obama folks in front of banks now. The view he and Holder took of 9/11 and a NYC trial has most folks down this way thinking he has a poor grasp of reality.
Out of all the folks I know that voted for Obama, just about all think he's doing a lousy job, and a high majority have lost all confidence in him. I'd guess only about 2 in 10 that I know would vote for him again. In fact some are getting as disgusted with the Dms as they got with the Reps before this election. Pelosi certainly isn't doing her party any good. In this area of NJ you see impeach Obama folks in front of banks now. The view he and Holder took of 9/11 and a NYC trial has most folks down this way thinking he has a poor grasp of reality.
He does. End of story. You cannot reason with Terrorists. You cannot plead for them to help your cause. They are brainwashed into thinking they need to kill to be rewarded. They are a bunch of warped people and they need to be taken down brutally. Obama is out of his mind. And him pretty much apologizing for the Bush Admin is BULL. I don't care about the differences between the Dems and the Reps, we're all the same country yet we are so divided politically. The Obama Admin needs to quit lallygagging and get down to business.
And for those of you are still out there who continue to blame Bush, we're well past that now. It's time to start stepping up to the plate and take action and stop blaming the other admin for the issues at hand today.
P.S. --> I consider myself an Independent so don't for one second think that I am bashing one party more than the other...but these Terrorists need to take responsibility for the $hit they did to us. But justice will not come about when you have Obama apologizing to every Tom, Dick and Harry that we have ever wronged. Give me a break.
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