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6/6 - Severe Storms - Third time is the charm?


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Could be a pretty rare and exciting day Tomorrow, but things need to go nearly perfect

SPC AC 051730

DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
1230 PM CDT SAT JUN 05 2010

VALID 061200Z - 071200Z

...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS PARTS OF SRN NEW
ENGLAND...NJ...ERN PA AND THE MID-ATLANTIC...

...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS PARTS OF THE CNTRL
APPALACHIAN MTNS...

...NEW ENGLAND/NJ/ERN PA/MID-ATLANTIC/CNTRL APPALACHIANS...
A RELATIVELY LOW-AMPLITUDE UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH WILL MOVE EWD ACROSS
THE ERN GREAT LAKES AND UPPER OH VALLEY SUNDAY. AHEAD OF AND SOUTH
OF THE UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH...A WELL-DEVELOPED LINE OF THUNDERSTORMS
SHOULD BE ONGOING SUNDAY MORNING FROM WRN NY SWWD ACROSS OH INTO SRN
IND WITH THE LINE MOVING ESEWD INTO THE CNTRL AND NRN APPALACHIAN
MTNS BY MIDDAY. A MARGINAL SEVERE THREAT SHOULD EXIST WITH THIS LINE
DURING THE MORNING WITH THE SEVERE THREAT GRADUALLY INCREASING AS
SFC TEMPS WARM DURING THE DAY. THE GREATEST THREAT FOR SEVERE SHOULD
BE CO-LOCATED WITH THE EXIT REGION OF A 75 TO 90 KT MID-LEVEL JET
MOVING ACROSS SRN NEW ENGLAND SUNDAY AFTERNOON. ETA-KF FORECAST
SOUNDINGS AT THAT TIME IN MA AND CT SHOW MLCAPE OF 1000 TO 1500 J/KG
AND 0-6 KM SHEAR IN THE 50 TO 60 KT RANGE WHICH SHOULD SUPPORT
SUPERCELL DEVELOPMENT. 0-3 KM STORM RELATIVELY HELICITIES OF 350 TO
400 M2/S2 COULD BE FAVORABLE FOR TORNADOES BUT THIS THREAT SHOULD BE
DEPENDENT UPON STORM MODE. IF THE PREDOMINANT STORM TYPE IS
LINEAR...THEN WIND DAMAGE COULD BE THE PRIMARY THREAT. WITH 850 MB
FLOW AT 50 TO 60 KT...ANY FAST-MOVING LINES COULD PRODUCE VERY
STRONG WIND GUSTS. THIS POTENTIAL FOR VERY STRONG WIND GUSTS SHOULD
EXTEND SWWD INTO NEW JERSEY ALONG THE SRN EDGE OF THE MID-LEVEL JET.

FURTHER WSW INTO THE CNTRL APPALACHIAN MTNS...A SEVERE THREAT SHOULD
ALSO EXIST SUNDAY AFTERNOON WHERE THE MODELS ARE FORECASTING
MODERATE INSTABILITY. ETA-KF FORECAST SOUNDINGS IN ERN KY SUNDAY AT
21Z SHOW 35 TO 45 KT OF 0-6 KM SHEAR WITH UNIDIRECTIONAL SHEAR
PROFILES. THIS SHOULD BE FAVORABLE FOR BOWING LINE-SEGMENTS WITH A
THREAT FOR DAMAGING WIND GUSTS ESPECIALLY AS LOW-LEVEL LAPSE RATES
STEEPEN DURING THE AFTERNOON.



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View PostStormchaser, on Jun 5 2010, 01:52 PM, said:

Very impressive looking picture for tomorrow afternoon, potentially, dare I say it, one of the better threats in awhile for tomorrow. Assuming we can get some morning destabilization via sunshine, temps into the low-mid 80s w/ TD's near 70, MUCAPE values should surpass 1500-2000 J/KG, maybe up to 2500 J/KG. This coupled with strong shearing of 55-65 kts via the mid level jet and pressure falls associated with the surface low, should be sufficient for widespread convection in the forms of multicellular clusters, bow echos producing wind damage, or a few isolated supercells. As you know supercells in the Northeast are akin to snowstorms in Norfolk VA, so approach with caution. Helicity is extremely favorable, 400 m2/s2, meaning there's plenty of turning winds as we head up in the atmosphere, conducive for wall clouds, funnel clouds, or isolated weak tornado development. My main concern is wind damage in the forecasted environment but be on the look out for some scary looking cloud formations tomorrow afternoon.

What can go wrong -- morning convection could be ongoing in PA, and if the cloud debris and residual weakening T-storms impact us late tonight or tomorrow morning, that could put a damper on destabilization and thus afternoon severe weather opportunity. IMO severe t-storm forecasting is probably the most difficult out of any type of weather, even harder than winter storm forecasting. So many different variables that can affect the outcome.

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Pretty High Tornado % for our area
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Storms continue to move East
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MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0827
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0605 AM CDT SUN JUN 06 2010

AREAS AFFECTED...PORTIONS SERN INDIANA...OH...WRN/NRN PA...NRN
WV...MD PANHANDLE...WRN NY.

CONCERNING...TORNADO WATCH 270...

VALID 061105Z - 061300Z

THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT FOR TORNADO WATCH 270 CONTINUES.

ADDITIONAL OR REPLACEMENT WW MAY BE NEEDED BEFORE SCHEDULED 13Z
EXPIRATION OF WW 270...IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE CONTINUING SVR THREAT
IN AND NEAR PORTIONS OF EXISTING WW AREA AND EWD SHIFT/EXPANSION
OVER MORE OF PA/NY LATER THIS MORNING.
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Sadly I will be out most of the day and un able to post, hope everyone stays safe if we do get storms!
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It would seem to me that the best chance for severe weather is south of route 84. The area north of 84 and east into southern New England have been getting numerous storms the last few days and the ones this morning may put a lid on storms for them this afternoon. Meanwhile a tornado watch is up for areas far NW.
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Mod Risk for the area! 10% risk for tornadoes. 45% risk for damaging winds. And a hatch for 10% risk of wind gusts greater than 65kts:

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Excerpt from SPC:

...CNTRL APPALACHIANS/MID ATLANTIC TO SRN/CNTRL NEW ENGLAND...
A SUBSTANTIAL SVR WEATHER EVENT /DAMAGING WINDS AND A FEW
TORNADOES/ REMAINS POSSIBLE TODAY FROM SERN NY AND CNTRL/SRN NEW
ENGLAND SW THROUGH ERN PA/NJ TO THE CHESAPEAKE BAY REGION...

BAND OF SCTD TSTMS...INCLUDING SEMI-DISCRETE SUPERCELLS AND BROKEN
LINES...EXPECTED TO PERSIST THROUGH LATER THIS MORNING ALONG AND
AHEAD OF AFOREMENTIONED COLD FRONT FROM SRN NY SW INTO SRN/CNTRL OH.
DESPITE UNFAVORABLE TIME OF DAY...COMBINATION OF 50-60 KT DEEP WSWLY
SHEAR AND FAIRLY RICH MOISTURE RETURN WILL MAINTAIN THREAT FOR
OCCASIONAL TORNADOES AND LOCALLY DMGG WINDS.
THIS THREAT SHOULD BE GREATEST ALONG AND JUST S OF SFC WAVE ALONG
THE NY/PA BORDER.

IN RESPONSE TO SFC HEATING AND CONTINUED EWD MOTION/AMPLIFICATION OF
UPR TROUGH...EXPECT THE FRONTAL STORMS TO INCREASE IN NUMBER AND
STRENGTH LATER THIS MORNING AND EARLY THIS AFTN OVER PARTS OF PA/WV
AND SRN OH. OTHER STORMS SHOULD FORM BY MIDDAY ALONG PREFRONTAL
CONFLUENCE AXIS/LEE TROUGH FROM THE CHESAPEAKE BAY NE INTO NEW
ENGLAND.

STRONG WIND FIELD ASSOCIATED WITH GRT LKS TROUGH /WITH 700 MB SPEEDS
OF 50-70 KTS/...AND INCREASING SFC-BASED INSTABILITY /SBCAPE TO 2000
J PER KG IN MD/VA...AND 1000 J PER KG IN NEW ENGLAND/...SHOULD PROVE
FAVORABLE FOR SCTD SUPERCELLS/SUSTAINED STORMS WITH DMGG WIND AND A
FEW TORNADOES. THIS THREAT WILL BE GREATEST FROM THE PHILADELPHIA
AREA NE INTO SRN AND PERHAPS CNTRL NEW ENGLAND THROUGH EARLY EVE.
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Finally might be able to get to use my new toys for the truck,Windshield mount for my video camera,and the anemometer!!

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Looking good for a severe weather outbreak around our area. Heating up quickly with the sun shining.
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I'm supposed to go to the Crawfish festival today. This could be interesting.
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Tornado watch coming soon for the area. This should be really interesting.
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MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0828
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0925 AM CDT SUN JUN 06 2010

AREAS AFFECTED...MUCH OF NEW ENGLAND...SWD ACROSS ERN PA/NJ

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...TORNADO WATCH LIKELY

VALID 061425Z - 061530Z

...TORNADO WATCH WILL BE ISSUED SOON ACROSS MUCH OF SRN NEW ENGLAND
INTO THE MIDDLE ATLANTIC...

WELL DEFINED SFC LOW WILL PROGRESS ACROSS UPSTATE NY INTO SRN VT/NH
BY MID AFTERNOON AS STRONG MID LEVEL SPEED MAX OVERSPREADS SRN NEW
ENGLAND. WARM SECTOR AIRMASS IS QUITE MOIST ACROSS THIS REGION AND
WILL BECOME QUITE UNSTABLE OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS AS BOUNDARY LAYER
HEATS. LATEST THINKING IS ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS WILL BECOME
QUITE FAVORABLE FOR TORNADIC THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT...ESPECIALLY
NEAR THE RETREATING WARM FRONT WHERE LOW LEVEL SHEAR WILL BE
MAXIMIZED. EVEN SOUTH OF THIS ZONE INTO THE MIDDLE ATLANTIC IT
APPEARS DEEP LAYER SHEAR WILL EASILY SUPPORT ROTATING UPDRAFTS AND
ISOLATED SUPERCELLS COULD ALSO BE EMBEDDED WITHIN A ZONE OF SEVERE
THUNDERSTORMS THAT DISPLAY MORE LINEAR QUALITIES. TORNADOES CAN BE
EXPECTED WITH THE MORE DISCRETE SUPERCELLS...POTENTIALLY
STRONG...AND DAMAGING WINDS WILL BE MORE COMMON WITH LINE SEGMENTS.
HAIL CAN ALSO BE EXPECTED WITH ORGANIZED ACTIVITY.

..DARROW.. 06/06/2010


ATTN...WFO...BOX...OKX...ALY...PHI...BGM...CTP...

LAT...LON 40097754 42927278 42377050 40927130 39537471 40097754
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The last time a tornado hit here was a few years ago. I didn't get hit by one but Bay Ridge did and it caused some damage. I also saw a small one in SI.
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Maybe a PDS watch?
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View Postsatellite_eyes, on Jun 6 2010, 10:24 AM, said:

I'm supposed to go to the Crawfish festival today. This could be interesting.
I am at a outdoor skeet shoot in allamuchy now. Nothing like holding a shotgun in a lightning storm. Lol
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View Postlab94, on Jun 6 2010, 10:58 AM, said:

I am at a outdoor skeet shoot in allamuchy now. Nothing like holding a shotgun in a lightning storm. Lol

You are right up the road from me. Better now than later today. Have fun.
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Tornado watch is now in effect for the metro area.
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View Postsatellite_eyes, on Jun 6 2010, 11:08 AM, said:

You are right up the road from me. Better now than later today. Have fun.
Yes sir ,right off ex12 starts in an hour. Just had alight shower, ended now
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whoa randomly waking up to a tornado watch
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Tornado Watch.
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Super humid out there, dewpoint at 68. Keep getting on and off instability showers with breaks of sun in between.
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