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This weekend will make 6 straight weeks of snow cover in my area. The lowest amount has been about 3 inches and now there is a lot more than that. I can't recall this long a period with constant snow cover. By the way, the night light from the moon or street lights shining off the icy crust on top of the snow looks nice.
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It's like our complex is covered in a giant glacier. At this rate there will be piles until late April. I'm ready to start a pool about the date the last piles of snow disappear.

Right now I'm going with April 18th.

Also of interesting note - I have not reached 40 degrees since January 3rd.
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Yeah, I can't believe we have about 12-18 inches of snow and I can stand on top of it because of the rock hard ice covering. Incredible. Also, this morning being around zero degrees and a heavy frost last night to go along, when the sun came up, it looked like we had another ice storm overnight. All the trees were coated with a nice fine layer of ice and was a brilliant site this morning.

With the amount of snow, it looks like the houses are much smaller because on the north facing side, the snow is just about up to the first floor windows, plus the sidewalks and people shoveling...just incredible and theres been snow on the ground, like you said since late december's blizzard.

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Winter 2011/2012


Washington Township, NJ -- Warren County, NW NJ


    Snow Totals for 2011/2012 Winter(IMBY)
    ---------------------------
  • Oct 22 ------> 11.50"
  • Jan 11 ------> Tr
  • Jan 13 ------> Dusting
  • Jan 16 ------> .25 (Snow/Sleet)
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    Total Snow --> 11.75"
      [indent]
    • Lowest Temp 2011/2012 -- 7.9 (12/10/2011)
    • First snow flakes : Oct 22, 2011
    • First Measurable Snow : Oct 22, 2011
    • First 30 degree night -- September 26[/indent]
        ----------2010/2011----------
      • Total Snow -- 69.50 inches(IMBY)
        ----------2009/2010----------
      • Total Snow -- 73.25 inches(IMBY)
        ----------2008/2009----------
      • Total Snow -- 40.50 inches(IMBY)
        ----------2007/2008----------
      • Total Snow -- 30.25 inches(IMBY)

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      Yep, today's day 42 I believe w/ snow on the ground, since December 26th. Awesome stuff, the past two winters have been paradise.

      This what winters were like back in the 1700s and 1800s, in Colonial times. Interesting to note solar activity was quite low pre 1920, and the past few years have seen solar activity comparable if not lower. Coincidence? I think not. We're headed towards cooler times for sure.

      BTW, we have a shot at a record low global temperature for the satellite era of 1979-present over the coming weeks. The drop in global temps has been phenomenal to watch, down from nearly +1c last summer to -0.35c now, and continuing to fall.

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      View PostStormchaser, on Feb 5 2011, 01:15 AM, said:

      Yep, today's day 42 I believe w/ snow on the ground, since December 26th. Awesome stuff, the past two winters have been paradise.

      This what winters were like back in the 1700s and 1800s, in Colonial times. Interesting to note solar activity was quite low pre 1920, and the past few years have seen solar activity comparable if not lower. Coincidence? I think not. We're headed towards cooler times for sure.

      BTW, we have a shot at a record low global temperature for the satellite era of 1979-present over the coming weeks. The drop in global temps has been phenomenal to watch, down from nearly +1c last summer to -0.35c now, and continuing to fall.

      Storm, I know you've personally have been following this closely. My question to you is, do you attribute this mostly to the low solar activity or are there many other factors that are playing a part? We keep hearing about how the ice caps are shrinking, is that still true or are they actually growing now playing a major other factor? Also, I remember you mentioning sometime ago in a post about the decadal solar activitiy is usually on a 8-10 year cycle(or something like that), and we are now going into the 12th year, which last time it happened you said we went into the "mini ice age". The possibility was there for this to be re-occuring right now and you thought that the next few years could be very cold and possibly stormy. Do you still feel that way?

      Thanks again for all your knowledge and input on this board, I/we do really appreciate it.

      Mark

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      Winter 2011/2012


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        Snow Totals for 2011/2012 Winter(IMBY)
        ---------------------------
      • Oct 22 ------> 11.50"
      • Jan 11 ------> Tr
      • Jan 13 ------> Dusting
      • Jan 16 ------> .25 (Snow/Sleet)
        ---------------------------
        Total Snow --> 11.75"
          [indent]
        • Lowest Temp 2011/2012 -- 7.9 (12/10/2011)
        • First snow flakes : Oct 22, 2011
        • First Measurable Snow : Oct 22, 2011
        • First 30 degree night -- September 26[/indent]
            ----------2010/2011----------
          • Total Snow -- 69.50 inches(IMBY)
            ----------2009/2010----------
          • Total Snow -- 73.25 inches(IMBY)
            ----------2008/2009----------
          • Total Snow -- 40.50 inches(IMBY)
            ----------2007/2008----------
          • Total Snow -- 30.25 inches(IMBY)

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          The maximum snow pack period for Long Island is 55 days (Dec. 26, 1947 - February 18, 1948). On our way to beating this record.

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          View PostStormchaser, on Feb 5 2011, 01:15 AM, said:

          Yep, today's day 42 I believe w/ snow on the ground, since December 26th. Awesome stuff, the past two winters have been paradise.

          This what winters were like back in the 1700s and 1800s, in Colonial times. Interesting to note solar activity was quite low pre 1920, and the past few years have seen solar activity comparable if not lower. Coincidence? I think not. We're headed towards cooler times for sure.

          BTW, we have a shot at a record low global temperature for the satellite era of 1979-present over the coming weeks. The drop in global temps has been phenomenal to watch, down from nearly +1c last summer to -0.35c now, and continuing to fall.

          Help me understand the +1c, - 0.35c statistic. Where is that from? Is that the entire year 2010 and so far 2011? I thought global temperatures were calculated from time frame to Jan 1 - Dec 31st. Can you shead some light?

          I'm not yet ready to tell all of my friends and family to plan for cooler times ahead. Summer 2010 was one of the hottest, driest that I remember, and I would need to see several cold winters and cool summers in a row before I start doubting the warming trend.
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          I can't wait to see how green my grass is going to but when it melts

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          View Postgpsnavigator, on Feb 5 2011, 02:26 PM, said:

          Help me understand the +1c, - 0.35c statistic. Where is that from? Is that the entire year 2010 and so far 2011? I thought global temperatures were calculated from time frame to Jan 1 - Dec 31st. Can you shead some light?

          I'm not yet ready to tell all of my friends and family to plan for cooler times ahead. Summer 2010 was one of the hottest, driest that I remember, and I would need to see several cold winters and cool summers in a row before I start doubting the warming trend.

          Yeah especially since the hottest years on record were 2005, 2010, 1998, 2003, 2002, 2009, 2006, 2007, 2004, 2001.

          yr Degrees C Degrees F
          2010 0.62 1.12
          2005 0.62 1.12
          1998 0.60 1.08
          2003 0.58 1.04
          2002 0.58 1.04
          2009 0.56 1.01
          2006 0.56 1.01
          2007 0.55 0.99
          2004 0.54 0.97
          2001 0.52 0.94
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          Snowfall 2011-2012: 37.7"

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          Snowfall 2011-2012: 59.5"

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          View PostNittanyLion, on Feb 5 2011, 02:34 PM, said:

          Yeah especially since the hottest years on record were 2005, 2010, 1998, 2003, 2002, 2009, 2006, 2007, 2004, 2001.

          yr Degrees C Degrees F
          2010 0.62 1.12
          2005 0.62 1.12
          1998 0.60 1.08
          2003 0.58 1.04
          2002 0.58 1.04
          2009 0.56 1.01
          2006 0.56 1.01
          2007 0.55 0.99
          2004 0.54 0.97
          2001 0.52 0.94
          Thanks for those stats Nittany. I had a feeling the last 12 or so years had gone something like this, but didn't have the numbers in front of me to back it up. Very interesting.
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          I want everyone to know that, earlier today, I waded through the snow to measure my snow pack.

          Ok, here it is because I know there are those out there that are dying to know. :biggrin:

          Average depth -
          In shaded areas: 18 inches
          In sunny areas: 10 inches

          The consistency is like dense, granular ice. The top has a glaze.
          2011-2012 Accumulating Snow and Ice

          October 29: 3.0 inches
          January 21 - 3.1 inches
          February 8 - 0.75 inches
          February 11 - 0.5 Inches
          Total to-date - 7.4 inches

          Lowest temperature -- January 4: 10 F

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          View PostSAMC, on Feb 5 2011, 06:41 AM, said:

          The maximum snow pack period for Long Island is 55 days (Dec. 26, 1947 - February 18, 1948). On our way to beating this record.

          Interesting SAMC, this means that the accumulation from the mega-snowstorm of December 26-27, 1947 lasted until February 18. Wow.
          2011-2012 Accumulating Snow and Ice

          October 29: 3.0 inches
          January 21 - 3.1 inches
          February 8 - 0.75 inches
          February 11 - 0.5 Inches
          Total to-date - 7.4 inches

          Lowest temperature -- January 4: 10 F

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          View PostFreezingDrizzle, on Feb 5 2011, 06:55 PM, said:

          Interesting SAMC, this means that the accumulation from the mega-snowstorm of December 26-27, 1947 lasted until February 18. Wow.
          That Dec26th storm dumped 26" on NYC... Very similar winter season except this January there was alot more snow than 1948, however, Feb 1948 they recorded 20" of snow and had a season total of 67".

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          How much snow dose cpk have this winter

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          View Postdulaboy, on Feb 5 2011, 07:31 PM, said:

          How much snow dose cpk have this winter
          57.7"
          total snow and ice 47.5in. (2008-2009)
          total snow 88.5" (2009-2010)
          total snow 77" (2010-2011)
          elevation 780ft.

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          season: 13
          summer:9

          10/29 2011- 16"
          Jan 17- 1/2"
          Jan 21- 5"
          Feb 24 -2.5" wet snow
          Total snow 2011-2012- 24"

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          Between yesterday and today my snow pack has taken a good hit. My temperature has been above freezing for 28 hours straight, now 43 degrees.
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          Went out to get the newspaper without a coat on for the first time in a long long time. It felt great. Still have a ton of snow here - generally 8-16" deep, with 2-3' in parts of my back yard. Snow still up to near the barbecue cooking area on my deck - generraly 18-20" there.
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          Wow Ice. We have a couple inches left in spots, many spots are all grass now. Agree about the temps, feels great. Opened the windows for a little while to let some fresh air in.

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          View Postforte408, on Feb 6 2011, 12:17 PM, said:

          Wow Ice. We have a couple inches left in spots, many spots are all grass now. Agree about the temps, feels great. Opened the windows for a little while to let some fresh air in.

          I drove toward your area on Rt 18 yesterday. Much less snow down there and it really cuts off just north (maybe 2 exits north) of the end of Rt 18 as you reach 138. But come back west and near Rt 34 at your same lattitude there was a lot more snow. Looks like that last big storm had a lot more snow just barely west of you at your lattitude.

          My immediate local area holds snow very well. It's a valley cutout within a hilly area in deep woods. So cold air really gets trapped. Unless I get warm equalizing rains this immediate area holds snow a lot longer than the surrounding area. There is often a huge difference between my street and Rt 34, just 2 miles away, in long period snow melts.
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          still got 14" on the ground and at night when its cold I can walk on top of the ice layer
          now in Mount Kisco, NY





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