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[isobar65]

I came across this article from the online section of NJ news, regarding the future of NJ's climate.

http://northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpc...jd2cWVlRUV5eTI=

[weatherbowl]

I bet a lot of people in New Jersey would love to see it have a climate like southern Virginia.  :). Isn't it interesting how the global warming crowd has never once mentioned one positive thing that global warming might bring. I wonder why?

[Stormchaser]

Talk about doomsday - boy, would I be willing to bet money they're dead wrong on every aspect of the above outlook. No mention of Earth's natural balancing effects, i.e, the gulf stream - which - if shut down due to fresh water release - would cool the northern hemisphere up to 5 degrees C (about 10 degrees F). This drastic temperature fall could occur within a few years after the demise of the thermohaline circulation -- meaning NYC itself would likely have a climate comparable to northern Maine/southern Canada. Folks in the Carolinas would have a NJ/NY type climate, while Florida has a NC environment. Devastating results if this were to occur - killing of major crops needed for food; however, we'd have to adapt to the changing climate. Think of it this way -- humans have been able to adapt to their climate ever since creation -- through periods much colder and much warmer than present. I think we can easily handle the meager 0.6c temp rise of the past century considering we've seen rises of 6c over the course of a couple decades. I believe anthropogenic activities have added to the current warm cycle, slightly; however, one has to remember we're still stepping out of the Little Ice Age: 1500-1800. Some of the past century's warming is certainly residual forcing from that cold period. This coupled with input from solar radiation/brightness (OLR), eccentricity of Earth's orbit, current tilt of the axis, IMO, accounts for more than 50-70% of the warming. Other factors such as ocean circulation and air pressure patterns have a smaller influence but still some effect. Anyone who claims, "All of this warming is due to human activities" obviously hasn't researched the subject and/or has no understanding of climate change. Let's keep in mind here, no matter what type of weather occurs, the media will blame it on global warming. Warm, dry winter -- that's global warming. Snowy winter -- global warming because of the increased water vapor in the atmosphere, hence more clouds/precip. Cold winter -- also global warming because more extreme swings in temps are expected. More hurricanes - global warming, more tornadoes, more floods - also global warming. You can see what I mean -- they've made it so that they assert their claim no matter what's happening with the climate. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for clean environment and alternative energy sources as we'll have no choice but to go that route eventually (not to mention the health benefits). It's just the hype and the fact that the media completely disregards any point of view but their own. Who knows - maybe they're correct, doubt it though. When have the doomsday sayers ever been correct. I'm still waiting for my ice age from back in the 70's.

[robbbs]

Storm, re your long post of before -- ditto from me.

[icehater]

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Storm, re your long post of before -- ditto from me.

Double ditto from me. What a joke. I didn't realize life was uninhabitable in southern Virginia and the last time I was there I saw all of the trees we have here, and they were just as large.

BTW if you want to read something that is quite possible read the following from Scientific American, and check out the associated video and NYC timeline. It's depressing but it shows you how quickly an urban place like Manhattan would become a jungle if man ceased to exist. I was astounded at how quickly a place like Manhattan would do that.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa...8F54EF6075AAB4D

[lab94]

Ice, that was great! makes you think!

[icehater]

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Ice, that was great! makes you think!

It's very interesting to think of what earth would be like without humans rather than thinking of how human's are screwing up the world. This will be right up Geek's alley.

[lab94]

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It's very interesting to think of what earth would be like without humans rather than thinking of how human's are screwing up the world. This will be right up Geek's alley.

All the new places with Radational cooling!LOL

[el bliizzardo diablo]

I rented a house in Fredon NJ that had a back yard in-gound pool with a deck, abandoned for about 8-10 years. 

Trees 6 inches in dia were growing out of the deck and there was 3 feet of mud in the deep end of the pool.  All sorts of critters everywhere, and the entire deck was totally covered by 3-4 inches of forest debris.

[vascudave]

looking at the  last 2 posts, i guess iso is on the doom and gloom train.