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[jjvesnow]

thats three runs in a row the midweek storm has trended east. Little by little

[Mike_The_Golfer]

I wouldn't get any hopes up for that one.

[icehater]

jjvesnow, on Feb 29 2008, 11:26 AM, said:

thats three runs in a row the midweek storm has trended east. Little by little

Doesn't matter. there's no cold air for that storm. That's tons of rain and some ice in western areas (and I'm talking well back into Ohio when I say western areas) if this verifies. You need to keep in mind that you may be dealing with 55-65 degree weather around here Monday and Tuesday! The midweek storm closes off and wraps in cold air around it saving very far northern areas (northern maine as if they need it) but that also cuts off the moisture supply and seriously reduces QPF by the time the storm reaches them.

Not a good run for the March 7th-8th storm either. Arctic air on this run does not plunge far enough south so you instead get strung-out weak LP as the front slowly pushes offshore. In March storms like that are not usually good for us. We need the dynamic event signalled by the 0Z and 6Z runs.

[shadow]

Everyone was hyping up the early march storms, but how this winter went i was just telling myself none of them will pan out. So far i'm right. I want spring, i'm getting tired of this very cold air then once a storm comes in, all of a sudden its to warm to snow.

[icehater]

shadow, on Feb 29 2008, 12:12 PM, said:

Everyone was hyping up the early march storms, but how this winter went i was just telling myself none of them will pan out. So far i'm right. I want spring, i'm getting tired of this very cold air then once a storm comes in, all of a sudden its to warm to snow.

I tend to agree with you. There's been nothing that's happened yet this winter that suggests a late season storm will verify. Having system after sytem enter as cold air is leaving is sickening but it is a pure La Nina trait as upstream Atlantic blocking to hold in the cold is very difficult to form. So it's a progressive pattern (notice we never had slow moving or meandering storms; even the Cape Cod special was a quick hitting very localized storm) and the further south you are the worse you are with respect to cold air retention and snow or frozen events.

[devilsfan0405]

Ice, you changed your pic. Is that your driveway?

[icehater]

devilsfan0405, on Feb 29 2008, 01:33 PM, said:

Ice, you changed your pic. Is that your driveway?

Yep - after PDII - to bring us luck in March. They wanted $500 to do that driveway after the blizzard of 96 when the snow was past my waist - and that was provided a public plow had cleared the street. I ended up taking 2 days to do it myself. I had to constantly knock the snow down and then use the snow blower. The snow on the driveway after the 96 storm was more than double the 18" mouth on my Ariens snow blower. I ended up finishing late Tuesday as a clipper that was inbound and predicted to add anoither 3-5" was on top of us. But we only ended up with 1-2" as the bulk of the snow went further south. PDII (nearly 30" here) was great but nothing can touch 96. I've got a fantastic picture of that storms snow depth on the driveway on a print and I'll post it if I ever find that group of photos.

Here's a better view but it's a different shot:

[Virgaman]

icehater, on Feb 29 2008, 06:46 PM, said:

Yep - after PDII - to bring us luck in March. They wanted $500 to do that driveway after the blizzard of 96 when the snow was past my waist - and that was provided a public plow had cleared the street. I ended up taking 2 days to do it myself. I had to constantly knock the snow down and then use the snow blower. The snow on the driveway after the 96 storm was more than double the 18" mouth on my Ariens snow blower. I ended up finishing late Tuesday as a clipper that was inbound and predicted to add anoither 3-5" was on top of us. But we only ended up with 1-2" as the bulk of the snow went further south. PDII (nearly 30" here) was great but nothing can touch 96. I've got a fantastic picture of that storms snow depth on the driveway on a print and I'll post it if I ever find that group of photos.

Here's a better view but it's a different shot:

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AHHHHHHHH FOR THE GOOD OLD DAYS ICE !!!!!

[jfar57]

icehater, on Feb 29 2008, 01:46 PM, said:

Yep - after PDII - to bring us luck in March. They wanted $500 to do that driveway after the blizzard of 96 when the snow was past my waist - and that was provided a public plow had cleared the street. I ended up taking 2 days to do it myself. I had to constantly knock the snow down and then use the snow blower. The snow on the driveway after the 96 storm was more than double the 18" mouth on my Ariens snow blower. I ended up finishing late Tuesday as a clipper that was inbound and predicted to add anoither 3-5" was on top of us. But we only ended up with 1-2" as the bulk of the snow went further south. PDII (nearly 30" here) was great but nothing can touch 96. I've got a fantastic picture of that storms snow depth on the driveway on a print and I'll post it if I ever find that group of photos.

Here's a better view but it's a different shot:

I don't have a picture of it....but my driveway is about 180 feet long and cut into the side of a hill. The snow from that storm drifted to about 6 feet in places and was never less than 3 feet.....it took me 8 hours to clear it with my blower. Then 4 to shovel through the crap from the plow (2 lanes worth of crap at that).

[devilsfan0405]

Great shots, Ice.

I've got to remember to take a bunch of pictures the next time we get a huge snowstorm. I look at your pictures and I'm just amazed at some of those mounds and drifts. It seems like so long ago when you consider the last few dull winters.

[icehater]

devilsfan0405, on Feb 29 2008, 09:29 PM, said:

Great shots, Ice.

I've got to remember to take a bunch of pictures the next time we get a huge snowstorm. I look at your pictures and I'm just amazed at some of those mounds and drifts. It seems like so long ago when you consider the last few dull winters.

Here's a few more from that great storm:

[lab94]

Thats not a house, its a foooooking mansion
nice pics

[icehater]

lab94, on Feb 29 2008, 09:55 PM, said:

Thats not a house, its a foooooking mansion
nice pics

In Colts Neck that's a little better than an average sized house. It's 6700 sq. feet.

[lab94]

And I was happy to upgrade to 3100sq ft LOL

[icehater]

lab94, on Feb 29 2008, 10:14 PM, said:

And I was happy to upgrade to 3100sq ft LOL

Some of the 6-8 acre lots here require 8,000 ft and up house sizes. 10 acre sites generally require 10,000 ft houses.

[lab94]

icehater, on Feb 29 2008, 10:20 PM, said:

Some of the 6-8 acre lots here require 8,000 ft and up house sizes. 10 acre sites generally require 10,000 ft houses.

God, I would hate to pay those taxes!

[Stormchaser]

Great pics Ice. I'll see if I can dig up some old PD II photos -- those were the good days.

Hard believe we had nearly 4 straight 40"+ winters (actually 02-03 and 04-05 were both 50"+ for me), and the past couple years we've been fighting to break 10".

Well -- we're headed into the cyclic neg NAO cycle over the coming years, so we "should" begin trending towards better winters, as seen from the late 40s-70s.

[Stormchaser]

lab94, on Feb 29 2008, 10:23 PM, said:

God, I would hate to pay those taxes!

Actually by Monmouth county standards, the Colts Neck taxes aren't as bad as eastern towns such as Little Silver, Rumson, Spring Lake, Red Bank, etc. NJ/NY pays some of the highest property taxes in the country; however, we compensate for that with our very low gas prices compared to the rest of the nation. I'm only paying 2.50 per gallon for regular while parts of upstate NY have 4.50-.75 per gallon costs. Same goes for most of the West and South.

[icehater]

Stormchaser, on Feb 29 2008, 10:31 PM, said:

Actually by Monmouth county standards, the Colts Neck taxes aren't as bad as eastern towns such as Little Silver, Rumson, Spring Lake, Red Bank, etc. NJ/NY pays some of the highest property taxes in the country; however, we compensate for that with our very low gas prices compared to the rest of the nation. I'm only paying 2.50 per gallon for regular while parts of upstate NY have 4.50-.75 per gallon costs. Same goes for most of the West and South.

Colts Neck taxes are relatively cheap. Some surrounding areas like Marlboro are much higher. In fact a house in Marlboroa at 2/3rds the size of that house and on a lot less land will cost more in taxes.

[lab94]

Stormchaser, on Feb 29 2008, 10:31 PM, said:

Actually by Monmouth county standards, the Colts Neck taxes aren't as bad as eastern towns such as Little Silver, Rumson, Spring Lake, Red Bank, etc. NJ/NY pays some of the highest property taxes in the country; however, we compensate for that with our very low gas prices compared to the rest of the nation. I'm only paying 2.50 per gallon for regular while parts of upstate NY have 4.50-.75 per gallon costs. Same goes for most of the West and South.

Up to 2.91 here