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But a lot of stuff blooming down there. Serious squall line headed for Myrtle with a very widespread tornado watch.

http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/busi...h_dailytraveler
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850mb low still dominant. WAA occuring in the middle levels of the atmosphere right now.

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850mb low still dominant. WAA occuring in the middle levels of the atmosphere right now.

Storm - 21.1 now and a mix of sleet and Fr rain. Amazing what that 850MB low is doing to the upper atmosphere.
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Can someone explain the significance of 850mb low. Be patient with me  ???
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It seems like there is a lot of dryslotting in the radar.  It is snowing now in sleepy hollow, but I am not too confident about it continuing to give me the 3-5 inches that NOAA is predicting, given all the dryslotting.  I hope I am wrong.  Thoughts?  Also what is WAA?  Thanks.
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WINTER OF 2010-11

12/14-- 1 inch
12/26-- 12 inches guestimate
1/7-- 3.25 inches
1/11-12-- 7.5 inches
1/18-- 2 inches of snow and sleet
1/21-- 3.5 inches
1/27- 11 inches

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850mb low still dominant. WAA occuring in the middle levels of the atmosphere right now.

Hey Storm, once the coastal low takes over and if it move NE instead of N(a little further off the coast) wouldn't the mid level temps crash? Is that still a possiblity and when will the coastal take over in your opinion(or Robbs, Ice or RGWP)

Thanks..

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Winter 2011/2012


Washington Township, NJ -- Warren County, NW NJ


    Snow Totals for 2011/2012 Winter(IMBY)
    ---------------------------
  • Oct 22 ------> 11.50"
  • Jan 11 ------> Tr
  • Jan 13 ------> Dusting
  • Jan 16 ------> .25 (Snow/Sleet)
    ---------------------------
    Total Snow --> 11.75"
      [indent]
    • Lowest Temp 2011/2012 -- 7.9 (12/10/2011)
    • First snow flakes : Oct 22, 2011
    • First Measurable Snow : Oct 22, 2011
    • First 30 degree night -- September 26[/indent]
        ----------2010/2011----------
      • Total Snow -- 69.50 inches(IMBY)
        ----------2009/2010----------
      • Total Snow -- 73.25 inches(IMBY)
        ----------2008/2009----------
      • Total Snow -- 40.50 inches(IMBY)
        ----------2007/2008----------
      • Total Snow -- 30.25 inches(IMBY)

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      850mb low still dominant. WAA occuring in the middle levels of the atmosphere right now.

      Hey Storm, once the coastal low takes over and if it move NE instead of N(a little further off the coast) wouldn't the mid level temps crash? Is that still a possiblity and when will the coastal take over in your opinion(or Robbs, Ice or RGWP)

      Thanks..

      It's a possibility...but fading. Unless the secondary low tracks further SE than progged; mid-level temps will remain above freezing, and not much in the way of snow for the coast. However, if 00z data depicts any SE shift in the track, we could be back in the game for backlash snow.

      At this point the main concern is ice for much of NJ.

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      storm how about the coast thoguh ice storm???
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      10-11 total snowfall-58.0"

      09-10 total snowfall-55.5"

      08-09 total snowfall-43.3"

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      [/quote]

      It's a possibility...but fading. Unless the secondary low tracks further SE than progged; mid-level temps will remain above freezing, and not much in the way of snow for the coast. However, if 00z data depicts any SE shift in the track, we could be back in the game for backlash snow.

      At this point the main concern is ice for much of NJ.


      When do you think we'll know about a possible shift SE, when it gets past NC ?

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      Winter 2011/2012


      Washington Township, NJ -- Warren County, NW NJ


        Snow Totals for 2011/2012 Winter(IMBY)
        ---------------------------
      • Oct 22 ------> 11.50"
      • Jan 11 ------> Tr
      • Jan 13 ------> Dusting
      • Jan 16 ------> .25 (Snow/Sleet)
        ---------------------------
        Total Snow --> 11.75"
          [indent]
        • Lowest Temp 2011/2012 -- 7.9 (12/10/2011)
        • First snow flakes : Oct 22, 2011
        • First Measurable Snow : Oct 22, 2011
        • First 30 degree night -- September 26[/indent]
            ----------2010/2011----------
          • Total Snow -- 69.50 inches(IMBY)
            ----------2009/2010----------
          • Total Snow -- 73.25 inches(IMBY)
            ----------2008/2009----------
          • Total Snow -- 40.50 inches(IMBY)
            ----------2007/2008----------
          • Total Snow -- 30.25 inches(IMBY)

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          i wish there was a dry slot later tonight into tomorrow when the rain is suppose to occur...so the snow wont get washed away lol...then just start snowing again tomorrow after
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          Can someone explain the significance of 850mb low. Be patient with me  ???

          The 850MB low is the primary low headed toward the coast..with it in control, it hinders the development of a secondary off the coast and keeps the mid levels of the atmosphere warm with a south/SE wind. We need that secondary to take control to cut off the warm air and switch the winds to out of the north so we can cool the column and get everybody back to genuine snow....Ice is right....severe storms down in SE. What a dynamic system!
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          This is a crazy storm.  I don't think we will be able to know what exactly is going to happen until it hits our backyard.  It seems that conditions are different from one town to the next.  It is exciting!!  Fun to watch and hear what is happening all around the area.
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          WINTER OF 2010-11

          12/14-- 1 inch
          12/26-- 12 inches guestimate
          1/7-- 3.25 inches
          1/11-12-- 7.5 inches
          1/18-- 2 inches of snow and sleet
          1/21-- 3.5 inches
          1/27- 11 inches

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          Can someone explain the significance of 850mb low. Be patient with me  ???

          Low pressure circ at the 850MB level of the atmosphere. If it's headed west of you it pulls in SE  and S winds aloft. So even though the surface winds are NE you have screaming southerlies aloft. Hence it gets warm aloft, stays cold at the surface and the snow melts when it goes thru the atmosphere at that level. If the layer of warmth is thin you get sleet, if it's thick you get freezing rain. 
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          I get it, thanks guys! So we need a pretty big shift NE then?
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