Why did the schedulers only schedule two games between the Red Sox and the Yankees at the new yankee stadium this month? After that, they won't play each other until like June 9-11, and that is again at Fenway. Boston does not come back to NY to play the Yankees until August for a 4 game series.
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Posted 04 May 2009 - 09:36 AM
#2
Posted 04 May 2009 - 09:49 AM
I kind of like it a bit better that way. Rivalry games are more intense late in the season when a lot is on the line.
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Posted 04 May 2009 - 09:52 AM
devilsfan0405, on May 4 2009, 10:49 AM, said:
I kind of like it a bit better that way. Rivalry games are more intense late in the season when a lot is on the line.
That is true too. Also, I was thinking that by them not playing each other, it will give the Yankees a chance to add more wins to the win column. Boston is a scary team. I hope we can sweep the over these next two games, especially after they showed the Yankees up in Fenway. They know now to watch Ellsbury, and his base stealing.

#4
Posted 05 May 2009 - 01:48 AM
The way things are going its two games too many.
Same old problems for the Yankees. Not getting the big hit when they need it. Bases loaded, one out in the 9th. Jonathan Pabelbon struggling with his command. All you need is a single to send the game into extra innings and Teixeira and Cano strike out. Granted, one of the calls against Tex was questionable at best. But still.
Same old problems for the Yankees. Not getting the big hit when they need it. Bases loaded, one out in the 9th. Jonathan Pabelbon struggling with his command. All you need is a single to send the game into extra innings and Teixeira and Cano strike out. Granted, one of the calls against Tex was questionable at best. But still.
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 01:53 AM
And what's really scary about the Red Sox is they're playing this well with Big Papi in a slump, Daisuke on the DL and the very talented Clay Buchholz in the minors.
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#6
Posted 05 May 2009 - 06:45 AM
Jim, agree with both the posts. I think age is a starting to catch up with the Yanks. Instead of Roids, your going to start seeing them usung Poly Grip!!
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 09:19 AM
lab94, on May 5 2009, 07:45 AM, said:
Jim, agree with both the posts. I think age is a starting to catch up with the Yanks. Instead of Roids, your going to start seeing them usung Poly Grip!!
The pen is the biggest problem. They have 3 relievers with and ERA under 4. Rivera, given. Bruney on DL. Coke is the only other one. The rest are between 5 and 15 (not counting claggett at 43). Those aren't old guys, just guys that cannot seem to get outs.
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#8
Posted 05 May 2009 - 10:58 AM
jfar57, on May 5 2009, 10:19 AM, said:
Lab, its not the old guys that are struggling...the problems are Texeira, 3rd base, Gardner and the young guys in the bull pen. The "old guys" are actually doing OK. Posada and Matsui are top 5 on the team in OBP. Damon and Jeter are hitting a bit below normal, but not horribly so.
The pen is the biggest problem. They have 3 relievers with and ERA under 4. Rivera, given. Bruney on DL. Coke is the only other one. The rest are between 5 and 15 (not counting claggett at 43). Those aren't old guys, just guys that cannot seem to get outs.
The pen is the biggest problem. They have 3 relievers with and ERA under 4. Rivera, given. Bruney on DL. Coke is the only other one. The rest are between 5 and 15 (not counting claggett at 43). Those aren't old guys, just guys that cannot seem to get outs.
And they are starting to infuse younger guys into the team. The rotation has three guys under 30, two under 25 and Burnett is only what...31 or 32? They have young guys at 1st, 2nd and CF.
It is going to be interesting to see what eventually happens to Jeter. Obviously at some point he won't be able to play SS any more. That guy on ESPN last night that looked like David Byrne from the "Once in a Lifetime" video mentioned Cano is set at second. Could Cano possibly move to short?
I think they were being a little harsh on Sabathia and Burnett. Yes, if you look at the pure numbers they aren't good. But in most of their starts they have kept the team close and given the team a chance to win. The hitters haven't come through. Or in some cases the bullpen has come in and let the inherited runners score. I have always thought those runs should be split between the departing pitcher and the new pitcher. Its that reliever's job to stop those runs from scoring. Why should they not appear at all on his record if they do?
And why is it that anytime the Yankees face a struggling pitcher he suddenly gets good against the them? Last year the Yankees faced Sabathia in Cleveland and he had a 10+ ERA and he one-hit them. Then last night, Lester had by far his best start of the year. I mean I like Lester and I pull for him because of what he's overcome in his life. But why always against the Yankees? Grrr.
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#9
Posted 05 May 2009 - 11:03 AM
Jimrin1967, on May 5 2009, 11:58 AM, said:
And they are starting to infuse younger guys into the team. The rotation has three guys under 30, two under 25 and Burnett is only what...31 or 32? They have young guys at 1st, 2nd and CF.
It is going to be interesting to see what eventually happens to Jeter. Obviously at some point he won't be able to play SS any more. That guy on ESPN last night that looked like David Byrne from the "Once in a Lifetime" video mentioned Cano is set at second. Could Cano possibly move to short?
I think they were being a little harsh on Sabathia and Burnett. Yes, if you look at the pure numbers they aren't good. But in most of their starts they have kept the team close and given the team a chance to win. The hitters haven't come through. Or in some cases the bullpen has come in and let the inherited runners score. I have always thought those runs should be split between the departing pitcher and the new pitcher. Its that reliever's job to stop those runs from scoring. Why should they not appear at all on his record if they do?
And why is it that anytime the Yankees face a struggling pitcher he suddenly gets good against the them? Last year the Yankees faced Sabathia in Cleveland and he had a 10+ ERA and he one-hit them. Then last night, Lester had by far his best start of the year. I mean I like Lester and I pull for him because of what he's overcome in his life. But why always against the Yankees? Grrr.
It is going to be interesting to see what eventually happens to Jeter. Obviously at some point he won't be able to play SS any more. That guy on ESPN last night that looked like David Byrne from the "Once in a Lifetime" video mentioned Cano is set at second. Could Cano possibly move to short?
I think they were being a little harsh on Sabathia and Burnett. Yes, if you look at the pure numbers they aren't good. But in most of their starts they have kept the team close and given the team a chance to win. The hitters haven't come through. Or in some cases the bullpen has come in and let the inherited runners score. I have always thought those runs should be split between the departing pitcher and the new pitcher. Its that reliever's job to stop those runs from scoring. Why should they not appear at all on his record if they do?
And why is it that anytime the Yankees face a struggling pitcher he suddenly gets good against the them? Last year the Yankees faced Sabathia in Cleveland and he had a 10+ ERA and he one-hit them. Then last night, Lester had by far his best start of the year. I mean I like Lester and I pull for him because of what he's overcome in his life. But why always against the Yankees? Grrr.
It really is amazing how much this happens. Plus whenever they face a new pitcher or someone they've never faced they get shut down. I'm telling you you can make a ton of money betting against them any time in this situation. It's also amazing how the amount of bad luck they have with pitchers who are suddenly bad with them but transform themselves on other teams (Vasquez, Olendorf come to mind just this year alone). I bet if they had Grienke or Meche this year both would be average at best LOL.
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 11:14 AM
jfar57, on May 5 2009, 10:19 AM, said:
Lab, its not the old guys that are struggling...the problems are Texeira, 3rd base, Gardner and the young guys in the bull pen. The "old guys" are actually doing OK. Posada and Matsui are top 5 on the team in OBP. Damon and Jeter are hitting a bit below normal, but not horribly so.
The pen is the biggest problem. They have 3 relievers with and ERA under 4. Rivera, given. Bruney on DL. Coke is the only other one. The rest are between 5 and 15 (not counting claggett at 43). Those aren't old guys, just guys that cannot seem to get outs.
The pen is the biggest problem. They have 3 relievers with and ERA under 4. Rivera, given. Bruney on DL. Coke is the only other one. The rest are between 5 and 15 (not counting claggett at 43). Those aren't old guys, just guys that cannot seem to get outs.
Teixiera is struggling. He even admitted it. After Jeter struck out, Girardi came to defend him for the home plate's strike zone, and he got thrown out. Its funny when they argue. I remember Joe Torre doing the arguing. LOL. After Girardi got kicked out, he started a rally. Damon and Teixiera both homered back to back. I knew Phil Hughes wasn't out of his slump.
They need to trade Edwar Ramirez for someone good. When, him, and the others comes up, it scares me to see them pitch.
The game would have been tied, but that guy that replaced Phil Hughes gave up a 2 run HR off the foul pole to Jason Bay. I have to admit, it seems to be only Jason Bay, and Youkilis hitting the HRs for Boston. And they come at the wrong time for the Yankees. The Yankees had a chance to get more runs, but the Red Sox manager pulled his pitcher to bring in Papelbon.
I hope the Yankees win tonight, with Joba.

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 11:57 AM
terryjohnson16, on May 5 2009, 12:14 PM, said:
Teixiera is struggling. He even admitted it. After Jeter struck out, Girardi came to defend him for the home plate's strike zone, and he got thrown out. Its funny when they argue. I remember Joe Torre doing the arguing. LOL. After Girardi got kicked out, he started a rally. Damon and Teixiera both homered back to back. I knew Phil Hughes wasn't out of his slump.
They need to trade Edwar Ramirez for someone good. When, him, and the others comes up, it scares me to see them pitch.
The game would have been tied, but that guy that replaced Phil Hughes gave up a 2 run HR off the foul pole to Jason Bay. I have to admit, it seems to be only Jason Bay, and Youkilis hitting the HRs for Boston. And they come at the wrong time for the Yankees. The Yankees had a chance to get more runs, but the Red Sox manager pulled his pitcher to bring in Papelbon.
I hope the Yankees win tonight, with Joba.
They need to trade Edwar Ramirez for someone good. When, him, and the others comes up, it scares me to see them pitch.
The game would have been tied, but that guy that replaced Phil Hughes gave up a 2 run HR off the foul pole to Jason Bay. I have to admit, it seems to be only Jason Bay, and Youkilis hitting the HRs for Boston. And they come at the wrong time for the Yankees. The Yankees had a chance to get more runs, but the Red Sox manager pulled his pitcher to bring in Papelbon.
I hope the Yankees win tonight, with Joba.
There are times you can tell Girardi is coming out to get thrown out to try and rally the team. Not last night, but there are times he really overdoes the act. There is a great clip of an older manager...maybe Billy Martin or Tommy Lasorda...who comes charging out of the dugout after a close play at third and he gets right in the umpire's face and starts yelling something like, "That was a GREAT call! You've been getting them right all day but I have to come out here and argue because my guys are flat and I have to fire them up!" It was really funny. That and an exchange between Lenny Dykstra and an umpire are my favorites. That one goes like this...Phillies were playing in St. Louis and it was one of those horrendously hot and humid days. Dykstra just hated playing that day so after a close call that went against him in the first inning he starts calling the umpire every name in the book trying to get tossed. The ump just smiled at him and said, "Lenny, you can say anything you want. If I have to be out here *you* have to be out here." The argument ended there.
As for Francona bringing Pabelbon...its not like he had lights-out stuff last night. He was very beatable. The Yankees just failed to come through.
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 12:02 PM
satellite_eyes, on May 5 2009, 12:03 PM, said:
It really is amazing how much this happens. Plus whenever they face a new pitcher or someone they've never faced they get shut down. I'm telling you you can make a ton of money betting against them any time in this situation. It's also amazing how the amount of bad luck they have with pitchers who are suddenly bad with them but transform themselves on other teams (Vasquez, Olendorf come to mind just this year alone). I bet if they had Grienke or Meche this year both would be average at best LOL.
I have really never understood why Vasquez hasn't been a more successful pitcher than he has been. He has great stuff and three plus pitches. Yet he's never really put it together. Greinke is on another planet right now though I have always considered him a top-notch pitcher. Gil Meche is definitely a shock. He looked like he was going to be a number one-type pitcher but then injuries really derailed him. He seems to be all the way back.
Speaking of injuries I am really glad Rick Ankiel is okay. The way he hit that wall things could have been very, very bad.
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 04:31 PM
terryjohnson16, on May 4 2009, 10:36 AM, said:
Why did the schedulers only schedule two games between the Red Sox and the Yankees at the new yankee stadium this month? After that, they won't play each other until like June 9-11, and that is again at Fenway. Boston does not come back to NY to play the Yankees until August for a 4 game series.
If they lose tonite you'll be very glad it was only two games. Luckily the Yankees came back against the Angels in that second game, otherwise this stretch would be very ugly. Besides wouldn't you want to play the Red Sox later when the team is healthier and more cohesive?
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 07:31 PM
icehater, on May 5 2009, 10:31 PM, said:
If they lose tonite you'll be very glad it was only two games. Luckily the Yankees came back against the Angels in that second game, otherwise this stretch would be very ugly. Besides wouldn't you want to play the Red Sox later when the team is healthier and more cohesive?
Very true.
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#15
Posted 05 May 2009 - 08:02 PM
Girardi is mad dumb. Why did he pull Joba with 2 outs. He was on a roll, and he got like 12 strike outs. Against Boston that is huge. Now, watch him bring in some wack reliever and cause Boston to tack on more runs.

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 08:04 PM
icehater, on May 5 2009, 05:31 PM, said:
If they lose tonite you'll be very glad it was only two games. Luckily the Yankees came back against the Angels in that second game, otherwise this stretch would be very ugly. Besides wouldn't you want to play the Red Sox later when the team is healthier and more cohesive?
Whether you play them now, or later, you are still asking for trouble. No matter if they play them now, or later, Yankees need to win.

#17
Posted 05 May 2009 - 09:06 PM
Yankees bullpen flopping again. Allows Boston to earn 2 more runs.
6 to 3 Boston in the top 8th. Embarrassing.
6 to 3 Boston in the top 8th. Embarrassing.

#18
Posted 05 May 2009 - 09:13 PM
terryjohnson16, on May 5 2009, 10:06 PM, said:
Yankees bullpen flopping again. Allows Boston to earn 2 more runs.
6 to 3 Boston in the top 8th. Embarrassing.
6 to 3 Boston in the top 8th. Embarrassing.
This is the deadest I've seen Yankee stadium yet. The Red Sox strike out with runners on second and third and I didn't even hear a chear from the crowd at Yankee stadium. Am I in the right universe?
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#19
Posted 05 May 2009 - 09:25 PM
icehater, on May 6 2009, 03:13 AM, said:
This is the deadest I've seen Yankee stadium yet. The Red Sox strike out with runners on second and third and I didn't even hear a chear from the crowd at Yankee stadium. Am I in the right universe?
Yes, and it's not just because of the rain. It's been like that most of the season -- empty seats and no life.
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#20
Posted 05 May 2009 - 09:31 PM
icehater, on May 5 2009, 10:13 PM, said:
This is the deadest I've seen Yankee stadium yet. The Red Sox strike out with runners on second and third and I didn't even hear a chear from the crowd at Yankee stadium. Am I in the right universe?
Rain is part of the reason. Also, when your team is down in the runs column, and the relieving pitching sucks, it drops your energy. When Joba was pitching and had them within reach of Boston, it was lively. Now, its a flop. Again another blowout.

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