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lab94
QUOTE (robbbs @ Apr 21 2010, 07:10 AM) *
The proposed school budget in my town was overwhelmingly defeated yesterday by a vote of 61% to 39%, and the 3 of 7 candidates elected to the school board were the 3 who were opposed to the budget and favored additional administrative and other cuts. The majority of communities in northern NJ passed their local school budgets but about 40% did not, often in those communities that have high tax rates. One of my neighbors ran for the school board and was defeated (she was an incumbent) and while she had some good ideas on education, I told her before hand that it was a political mistake for her to favor the proposed budget as she did. It's been very much a stop taxing us to death reactive vote here, coupled with ill feelings about teacher salary increases despite a stagnant economy, and declining student test scores.


Robbs, I got a email at 4am says ours was defeated too. I just heard that 54% of NJ's school budgets failed yesterday. And in some towns the turn out was almost as high as a Prez election!
lab94
2/3 of them failed in Morris county

http://www.nj.com/news/local/index.ssf/201...on_recap_1.html
robbbs
QUOTE (lab94 @ Apr 21 2010, 01:18 PM) *


I understand the majority of communities in NJ rejected their proposed school budgets. That's a phenominal departure from the typical 70% passage that occurs. I think the teachers' union really blew it in not conceding their salary increases for one year. Of course, the union would rather that newer teachers be downsized instead of giving up their increases for the rest, which is what will likely happen now in many of the communities where budgets were rejected. That alone tells you where their priorities really are, as opposed to the rhetoric about caring for the students.
icehater
QUOTE (robbbs @ Apr 21 2010, 07:10 AM) *
The proposed school budget in my town was overwhelmingly defeated yesterday by a vote of 61% to 39%, and the 3 of 7 candidates elected to the school board were the 3 who were opposed to the budget and favored additional administrative and other cuts. The majority of communities in northern NJ passed their local school budgets but about 40% did not, often in those communities that have high tax rates. One of my neighbors ran for the school board and was defeated (she was an incumbent) and while she had some good ideas on education, I told her before hand that it was a political mistake for her to favor the proposed budget as she did. It's been very much a stop taxing us to death reactive vote here, coupled with ill feelings about teacher salary increases despite a stagnant economy, and declining student test scores.


Defeated here too at both local and regional levels.
NittanyLion
QUOTE (lab94 @ Apr 21 2010, 08:15 AM) *
Robbs, I got a email at 4am says ours was defeated too. I just heard that 54% of NJ's school budgets failed yesterday. And in some towns the turn out was almost as high as a Prez election!


Newton's passed (I've never seen it fail actually), but Andover's and Green's did not (sending districts to Newton). Only 10 out of 24 passed in Sussex County, while 14 failed.
FreezingDrizzle
QUOTE (robbbs @ Apr 21 2010, 08:38 AM) *
I understand the majority of communities in NJ rejected their proposed school budgets. That's a phenominal departure from the typical 70% passage that occurs. I think the teachers' union really blew it in not conceding their salary increases for one year. Of course, the union would rather that newer teachers be downsized instead of giving up their increases for the rest, which is what will likely happen now in many of the communities where budgets were rejected. That alone tells you where their priorities really are, as opposed to the rhetoric about caring for the students.


Bingo, bingo, bingo Robbbs.

The Union leadership is older, tenured, and secure. They want their pay increase at the expense of the newer, younger teachers (and subs, who they could not care less about).

My wife, a teacher, talks of dead wood and coasters, but due to union rules, these people can't be let go in a time like this; as they would in private industry. Sadly, it will be the lowest seniority teachers, even if they are great.
devilsfan0405
People are saying "no mas" to overspending. We just don't have the money or the patience for it any longer. Unfortunately, budget cuts will not attack the heart of the issue. It's like putting a band-aid on a gunshot wound. It doesn't address overpaid administrators, pork jobs that have no real purpose, double-dipping on pensions, etc. However, the union did itself no favors by refusing (for the most part) to accept wage freezes. Time for them to join the real world. How many people in the private sector have not seen a raise in several years? Hell, how many people don't even have a job for that matter? You can say that teachers don't see the kind of perks people in the private sector do when times are good (bonuses, other forms of compensation such as stock options) but there's a difference. Employee compensation in the private sector isn't funded by taxpayer dollars.
NittanyLion
Well Andover (one of the sending districts to Newton that had their budget rejected), had their big board meeting last night and it was decided to freeze their administrators budgets. However, since they still needed things done in the school, the money that they are not getting as a raise are going towards other things, such as the Principals is going to pay for lunch room aides. Now they just need to meet with the town and see what happens.

According to my parents, a ton of protests all over town yesterday. Also heard that apparently Christie actually locked himself in somewhere to hide from protesters. He also may cut the Bloustein Scholars program, which goes towards students who go to school instate.


Many high school students across the state, walked out of class to protest the cuts as well:

http://www.njherald.com/story/news/j0149-B...thru-04-27-0830


NJ students ditch class to protest budget cuts

NEWARK (AP) -- Thousands of New Jersey high school students walked out of class Tuesday to protest budget cuts, a statewide event organized through text messages and social networking websites.

More than 2,000 students in Newark left their schools, stopped traffic on downtown streets and rallied at City Hall, chanting "Save our schools." Downtown shops, office and restaurants had their doors locked as the crowd moved up and down Broad Street.

"I want to have a better future," said Sharmaine Jones, a junior at Newark Central High who joined Newark's protest. She said the robotics club that she participates in is expected to be eliminated next year and worries that not having it will hurt her chances at a college scholarship.

Student speakers derided the governor and questioned why Mayor Cory Booker hadn't intervened, saying students should support another mayoral candidate, Clifford Minor.

It wasn't clear how many of the state's 406,000 public high school students participated, but a Facebook page used to organize the protests had some 17,000 fans by Tuesday. Walkouts also were reported at Rancocas Valley High School in Mount Holly, Montclair High School and Ocean Township High School.

On the social networking site, some students reported successful protests including hundreds of students; others crticized classmates for wimping out. Some said school officials didn't try to stop them, while others reported getting detention for participating.

Organizer Michelle Lauto, who graduated last year from Old Tappan High School in Bergen County and is now a student at Pace University in New York, said she wanted to join the cause because her mother is a teacher and her sister is a school secretary who hopes to become a teacher eventually.

"What we want to do is get attention to the issue and show primarily that the youth is not apathetic to the issue," said Lauto, an actress who's especially concerned that arts programs could be eliminated.

She said she created the Facebook page about a month ago and invited her 600 or so online friends -- few of them high school students -- to participate. It caught on quickly.

The protest comes one week after voters in 59 percent of the state's school districts rejected higher property tax levies to pay for schools, leaving municipal governing bodies to make cuts. It was the first time in 34 years that the majority of budgets were defeated.

The battle over school funding has been especially acrimonious this year since Gov. Chris Christie's budget proposal last month called for schools to see their combined direct state and federal aid decreased by about 11 percent on average -- with many districts getting bigger reductions that that.

Most of the state's school districts planned teacher layoffs and tax increases to make up for the lost aid. The high number of rejections indicate voters weren't happy with that approach.

Christie says layoffs can be avoided if school employees agree to one-year salary freezes and to start paying 1.5 percent of their salaries toward their health insurance premiums.

Most of the state's teachers unions have balked at the idea, saying Christie is unfairly trying to balance the state's budget at their expense. Christie has been unapologetic, consistently criticizing the leaders of the New Jersey Education Association for being selfish.

On Tuesday, his spokesman, Michael Drewniak, said he hoped schools were doing what they could to keep students in the classrooms -- and that he believed the protesters may have been misguided.

"It is also our firm hope that the students were motivated by youthful rebellion or spring fever," Drewniak said.

The NJEA said students were "engaging in civil disobedience" but shouldn't walk out of classes.

In Montclair, one student carried a sign that read, jokingly, "Thiss is wat happen when yu fire teechers -- students get dum."

A 17-year-old senior, Donovan Gaines, lamented that the school's internship program for seniors was eliminated because of budget cuts.

"I feel like it's not our fault -- the debt that New Jersey has -- we shouldn't have to pay for it," he said.
vascudave
i have to say my email has been empty from my district sup. before the elections at least one, sometimes two emails 2 weeks leading in. since the election....not one! guess i don't need to be informed anymore? rolleyes.gif
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