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weatherbowl
This will go down as the warmest spring on record for Central Park. It has been some stretch of warm weather and if we are going to have a warmest season, I pick spring to be the one.
bm55
QUOTE (weatherbowl @ Jun 21 2010, 07:10 AM) *
This will go down as the warmest spring on record for Central Park. It has been some stretch of warm weather and if we are going to have a warmest season, I pick spring to be the one.

Do you have any numbers?
weatherbowl
QUOTE (bm55 @ Jun 21 2010, 12:34 PM) *
Do you have any numbers?
The three-month average (March April May) temperature of 57.1 degrees was 4.7 degrees above normal, nearly a degree warmer than second place 1991 and nearly thirteen degrees higher than the bone-chilling spring of 1888.
bm55
QUOTE (weatherbowl @ Jun 21 2010, 04:34 PM) *
The three-month average (March April May) temperature of 57.1 degrees was 4.7 degrees above normal, nearly a degree warmer than second place 1991 and nearly thirteen degrees higher than the bone-chilling spring of 1888.

Thanks, we all know about March 1888, but those are very impressive numbers for the past 3 months.
icehater
QUOTE (weatherbowl @ Jun 21 2010, 04:34 PM) *
The three-month average (March April May) temperature of 57.1 degrees was 4.7 degrees above normal, nearly a degree warmer than second place 1991 and nearly thirteen degrees higher than the bone-chilling spring of 1888.


Keep in mind we had an 1888 like storm at the end of February but this spring was nothing like that one. Also the days before the 1888 blizzard was late April/early May like 65 degree weather.
Virgaman
QUOTE (icehater @ Jun 22 2010, 03:33 AM) *
Keep in mind we had an 1888 like storm at the end of February but this spring was nothing like that one. Also the days before the 1888 blizzard was late April/early May like 65 degree weather.



I had one of my good friends come over for a swim and he lives only 8 miles southwest of me in my county and we were talking about that February storm on how i got mostley a soaking rain while he has 22 inches of snow just 8 miles southwest of me, and of course you had much much more, to this day that was truly the craziest storm i ever witnessed, truly the hudson river cut that storm like a knife, east of the river rain, west snow and i am literally just a mile from the river.
icehater
QUOTE (Virgaman @ Jun 22 2010, 10:37 AM) *
I had one of my good friends come over for a swim and he lives only 8 miles southwest of me in my county and we were talking about that February storm on how i got mostley a soaking rain while he has 22 inches of snow just 8 miles southwest of me, and of course you had much much more, to this day that was truly the craziest storm i ever witnessed, truly the hudson river cut that storm like a knife, east of the river rain, west snow and i am literally just a mile from the river.


I only had a foot from that storm even though it was snow from start to finish. Robbbs and BM got crushed, and NYC had about 20". Remember if a storm coming up from the south is not a SW flow event - gets cut-off as that one did, then throw out all the norms you're used to as the circ of the system throws warm ocean air north of the system and cold land air south of it. It's not a common occurance but there have been plenty of times it rained north and snowed south in the past, and when it does happen it's usually an intense storm with heavy snow accums vs heavy rains. Last big one before this was Jan 25, 2000 when the MA had a 20" blizzard and Philly thru NNE had snow to rain. Somewhere in that storm there was a similar cutoff to what happened to you with rain north and snow south - but it was a lot further south in the MA. A storm moving due N or NNW, similar to the milennium storm will also do the trick but only in the far eastern areas. Other storms that had a lot mre snow south and warmer air further north that I remember were the Veteran's day 1987 storm that buried DC and gave rain here and further north and a storm in the early 1990's in which I had 15" of snow in Marlboro NJ (that eventually went to freezing drizzle) while the Catskills thru Albany had 40+ heavy rains. At one point in that storm it was 15 degrees warmer in Albany than in central NJ. The eralier storm this past winter that retrograded from far out to sea back to the Maine coast and brought 40+ weather to Caribou and blizzardous 20 degree snowsqualls to many of us was also similar as it flooded all of Maine and eastern Canada with temps 20-40 degrees abover normal while we froze.
Virgaman
yes i remember that Maine storm, i got 4 inches in snow and squalls with temps in the mid teens while maine had temps in the mid to upper 30s.

also april 10, 1996 i think you had a snowstorm that gave you a foot , while my area up here had rain and snow mixed with little or not accumulations.
icehater
QUOTE (Virgaman @ Jun 23 2010, 06:03 AM) *
yes i remember that Maine storm, i got 4 inches in snow and squalls with temps in the mid teens while maine had temps in the mid to upper 30s.

also april 10, 1996 i think you had a snowstorm that gave you a foot , while my area up here had rain and snow mixed with little or not accumulations.


That April 10, 1996 storm was different. It was a SW flow event. Typically in early and late storms you'll get snow (in marginal cold air) where the heaviest precip falls and then rain or a slopfest in areas too far north or west of the storm where precip is lighter. The column usually has thin pockets of air just over freezing and only the heaviest precip areas can overcome that and stay snow. Even in those areas any lightening up of precip can go to rain and then back to snow when it falls heavier again. The April 10th storm was constant mod-hvy precip so we stayed all snow, not only here but all the way down past Atlantic City. 4-6 weeks earlier that would have been an 18" storm here.
bm55
QUOTE (Virgaman @ Jun 23 2010, 06:03 AM) *
yes i remember that Maine storm, i got 4 inches in snow and squalls with temps in the mid teens while maine had temps in the mid to upper 30s.

also april 10, 1996 i think you had a snowstorm that gave you a foot , while my area up here had rain and snow mixed with little or not accumulations.

I remember April 10, 1996 well, got 5" of heavy wet snow that disappeared in 2 days.
metfan4life
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