This is F@#KING crazy. All in the name of getting more Dem votes I bet! We can't afford to pay for school and health care etc. for all the legal people. Can you think if there are another 12 mill just granted rights for being here illegaly?


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/23...br/%3e/#content




GOP Lawmakers Warn of Administration Plan to Grant Amnesty to Illegal Immigrants



Eight Republican senators and an independent group that supports tighter limits on immigration are warning that the Obama administration is drafting a plan to "unilaterally" issue blanket amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants as it struggles to win support in Congress for an overhaul of immigration laws.

The senators who wrote the White House on Monday say they are concerned that the administration is readying a "Plan B" in case a comprehensive reform bill cannot win enough support to clear Congress.

"It seems more real than just bullying (Republicans) into a bill -- that it's a plan that they can actually put forward ... circumventing Congress," an aide told FoxNews.com on Wednesday.

In their letter, the senators -- Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa; Orrin Hatch, R-Utah; David Vitter, R-La.; Jim Bunning, R-Ky.; Saxby Chambliss, Ga.; Johnny Isakson, R-Ga.; James Inhofe, R-Okla.; and Thad Cochran, R-Miss. -- urge the president to "abandon" what they say is a move to "unilaterally extend either deferred action or parole to millions of illegal aliens in the United States."

"Such a move would further erode the American public's confidence in the federal government and its commitment to securing the borders and enforcing the laws already on the books," they wrote.

Deferred action and parole, which give illegal immigrants the ability to seek a work permit and temporary legal status, are normally granted on a case-by-case basis. But the aide said the lawmakers have learned from "sources" that the administration is considering flexing its authority to grant the status on a mass basis.

Numbers USA, an organization that presses for lower immigration levels along with humanitarian treatment of illegal immigrants, has started a petition to the president expressing "outrage" at the alleged plan.

Rosemary Jenks, director of government relations with Numbers USA, said she's been hearing for weeks from "sources close to the Democratic leadership" in both chambers that administration officials are discussing whether the Department of Homeland Security could direct staff to grant "amnesty" for all illegal immigrants in the country.

"They're trying to figure out ways around a vote," she said.

"Any attempt to force an amnesty on the American people using this underhanded method smacks of despotism," reads the fax the group is urging supporters to sign.

The White House has not responded to a request for comment.

The Department of Homeland Security estimated last year that 10.8 million undocumented residents live in the United States; other estimates have ranged higher. Any move to grant blanket legal status, even temporary, would raise questions about how Homeland Security would be able to handle the caseload. Jenks said Congress certainly wouldn't grant the administration the funding for more caseworkers.

The purported discussions of a blanket amnesty come in the middle of several concurrent and heated debates over illegal immigration. The recently signed immigration law in Arizona has divided the country, with some states trying to replicate the state's tough legislation and other jurisdictions boycotting the state in protest. The Obama administration plans to file a court challenge.

Democrats, meanwhile, have been trying to round up support for an overhaul bill in Congress, and the Interior Department is facing renewed criticism from Republican lawmakers over restrictions it places on Border Patrol officers policing the border on federal lands. Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., shocked several Arizona residents last week when he told them that Obama had said he would not beef up border security because it would leave Republicans without an incentive to pass broader immigration reforms.

Jenks said the talks about Homeland Security allowing illegal immigrants to stay are "serious."

Under the law, immigration officials can grant deferred action to temporarily postpone removing an illegal immigrant from the country. That status does not offer a guarantee that they won't face deportation, but Jenks said illegal immigrants granted parole are often allowed to seek permanent legal status.

If a "Plan B" is being discussed, it's unclear how far along the talks might be. Another GOP Senate aide said the discussions started after Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Richard Lugar, R-Ind., called on Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano in April to stop deportations of undocumented students who could earn legal status under a bill they introduced.

A Senate Democratic aide said the Obama administration never responded to the April letter

I've always thought Canada's looked nice.

The illegals don't want amnesty, cause then they would have to start paying taxes!

If the illegals get amnesty, what happens to all those who are waiting to gain legal status the lawful way. Do they get immediate citizenship or the shaft?

I honestly don't see amnesty happening. The political fallout for those that pushed it through would be tremendous and would put that party out of the picture for years (because like it or not, most people in this country, Dem or Repub, are against illegal immigration). Also it would send the country into an uproar and much more violent demonstrations than these joke "Tea Parties" (which also like it or not, are set up by executives and politicians who then use these people that think they are actually supporting a cause, for political gain and money, there is nothing grassroots about them).

And going the other way, I don't see illegal immigration being stopped either. And you can't even blame the Democrats in control of both houses and the White House, because nothing was done during the Bush administration when they had full control either, since keeping illegals out would also hurt corporations and big business which half to 3/4 of these politicians are in the pocket of.

In this political climate, I don't see any major national legislation being passed.

You're absolutely right. Neither party has the guts to confront the issue. Democrats want the votes from those who would be enfranchised if they are made to be legal citizens. Republicans and business folks (who often go hand in hand) like the cheap labor that comes from people traveling across the border.

You mean you want to reward people for following the law and waiting their time?
Of course that would the fair thing to do, right thing to do and the least racially motivated since it would impact people from all over the world as opposed to a majority from one group.
Do you realize if you are from certain countries, the waiting list is 30 years long and that is if you have a relative (ie brother/sister) who is a citizen in the US.

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Obama Tries to Steer Immigration Debate With Call for Congressional Action
Published July 01, 2010 | FoxNews.com


AP
May 5: President Obama speaks as first lady Michelle looks on during a celebration of Cinco de Mayo.
Amid cries for tougher enforcement and more boots on the ground along the border, President Obama will try to seize the reins of the roiling national debate over immigration Thursday in a speech calling for a comprehensive legislative solution.

The call to action is a heavy lift for the president, who is keeping Congress' plate overflowing. As he tries pulling a financial regulation package over the finish line and begins implementing provisions of the health care bill, he's also pushing anew for action on a climate package. The speech on immigration follows back-to-back meetings Obama had with advocates and lawmakers at the White House this week.

Feeling pressure from supporters, Obama, in his speech at American University in Washington, D.C., is looking to jump-start the effort he promised to make a priority during his first year. The controversial Arizona immigration law may have served as the impetus for a stepped-up federal push, but it also highlighted how critical border-state lawmakers view the enforcement end of the debate.

Republicans have cautioned the president not to push ahead with a comprehensive immigration package until he does more to physically secure the border -- something they say has not happened.

The political reality is that to get a bill Obama needs Republican support, mostly in the Senate, where Democrats fall short of the 60 votes needed to overcome GOP stalling tactics. Obama has mentioned that lack of cross-party support in his recent comments on immigration.

"I've got to have some support from Republicans," he said at a May news conference with visiting Mexican President Felipe Calderon.

Obama has endorsed a proposal by Sens. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., that would require illegal immigrants, among other things, to admit they broke the law, pay fines and back taxes and perform community service to eventually obtain legal status. But Graham since has balked at acting on immigration this year, and no other Senate Republican has come forward.

Obama's administration has acted to improve border security, including increasing personnel and equipment along the border. Obama recently ordered 1,200 National Guard troops to the border to boost security and asked Congress for an additional $600 million to support personnel and improve technology there. More than 500 of those troops are to be sent to Arizona.

But in April, he gave lawmakers some wiggle room when he said Congress may not have the appetite to deal with immigration this year following a tough legislative year in 2009.

The Arizona law requires police enforcing another statute to clarify a person's immigration status if there's reason to believe the individual is in the U.S. illegally. Several states and communities are considering similar legislation, which Obama says is an understandable byproduct of the public's frustration over the federal government's inability to tighten the immigration system.

But Obama also has criticized the law as "misguided" and said it is potentially discriminatory. He has asked the Justice Department to review its legality and immigrant advocates are hoping the government will sue Arizona to block the law from taking effect later this month.






Well given that there's no way that we could possibly deport them all, this isn't a BAD alternative...if carried out correctly.

So if the illegals don't have the money to pay back taxes or fines or they refuse to do community service, does this mean they get deported?

Doubtful. They'd probably receive some kind of amnesty.

Doubt it. They would problably start an illegal immigrant bailout fund. Funded by our tax dollar

And these "anything goes" pro-illegal fools still attempt to throw the racist argument out there if you dare to disagree with them. It has nothing to do with racism. I don't give a damn where you're from, what your ethnicity is or what your skin color is. You have no right to be here illegally. Look at what they do to people in other countires who don't belong there. Deportation? Hell, you'd be lucky to make it out alive. The law is the freakin' law. I'm sick and tired of being called a racist because I want rules enforced. And in this post-9/11 world, the stakes are just too high. If someone is in this country, we need to know if they have malicious intent.

its racist for me..yup i am racist against CRIMINALS!!!! i don't like to pay anything towards any criminals regardless of their country of birth!!