lol

http://www.weatheradvance.com/winter-outlook-2010-2011

Some people really like winter, I guess.

LOL What a joke. 28"+ for Northern Vermont? The average is 91" at the college. I doubt they EVER got less than 28".

And apparently cold and snowy = 18-24" for the NYC metro area? Come on...

LOL I can't stop laughing at those maps .

Here's my LT weinter outlook. Guaranteed 100% success:

It will be colder everyday this winter than today. This encompasses both seasonal winter and Met winter. End of outlook.

Add -- There will be less daylight too

Just for fun, but if I had to make a call right now:

December: Colder than normal
January: Near normal
February: Warmer than normal

Snowfall in NYC -- 25".

Moderate La Nina with a negative NAO.

25 inches wouldn't be bad. I wish the LA Nina weakens to a weak La Nina.

Yeah it's too early to say at this point. Anything can happen. For our sake let's hope the models are overdoing the La Nina intensity, although I doubt it atm. Maybe we can pull a 1955-56 w/ a -NAO/AO and get 35" of snow in a strong Nina winter.

I just bought a 32" snowblower. It better snow!

BTW - the analog winter for my purchasing of a snowblower is 1995/96. Got the snowblower I just gave away on January 6, 1996! So someone on the board please inform JB of that so that he takes it into account in his winter forecast and that crazy short-term forecasting model of his as well.

...and ....
there WILL be snow sometime during that period.

Lets hope the La Nina weakens as we get to October.

Ugly

CFS

I want a warm fall/winter.

You might get your wish.

I want a cold snowy winter after this disgustingly hot humid summer. You had your way now let us have ours!

I wouldn't be surprised if you were right, the way you nailed this summer.

http://www.longrangeweather.com/weather-fo...ts/US-City.aspx

21 inches of snow for JFK.

NO! lol.

Yall wanted this summer, after the summer we had last year. Raining most of June, and only around four 90 degree days.

I definitely did NOT want this summer. highs in the low to mid 80's are plenty warm enough for me. This summer has been brutal. I can't wait for it to end.

Your crazy! I hope this helps us have warm water temps, so the fall and winter will be warm, with less snow.

Why is it crazy to not want to sweat every time you go outside? If I had a pool I might feel different but I don,t. So I don't.

This summer has been brutal! way to hot for way to long, and its only late july! i am done with this heat. Cant wait for temps in the low to mid 70s and cool nights.

thats the most inaccurate info I have ever seen. None of the normals match for the area

It's a weenie site.

Interesting read.

http://www.landscheidt.info/?q=node/189

You had yours......Jan and Feb....This is making up for that.

Joe B is going to have his winter forecast out soon.

http://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/statuses/19730637546

You do know that the "i" is silent in his last name right??

From the hints he's been dropping on the pro site, don't expect a cold/snowy forecast from him this year. In fact he looks to be going quite the opposite, warm/less snow, with all the cold locked up in the arctic.

I think he expects December to be front loaded. What are you thinking?

I think it's too early to make much of a call. Mod/strong Nina climatology would suggest our best chance at blocking and thus a cold/snowy pattern would be Dec 1st-Jan 1st, so that's probably the best thinking at this point. Once we get into Sept and especially Oct we'll have a better handle on northern hemisphere snow cover and NAO prospects for the winter. IMO the NAO/AO are major wildcards for this year. Huge impact on the temp/precip pattern in the Northeast. If we get a strong -NAO even with a strong nina, we can manage below normal temps and near normal snowfall.

JB issued his winter outlook on his pro site. He expects temps 1 degree above normal and near normal snowfall and Ice for the I-95 corridor. He expects a thaw at the start of January. Winter comes back strong towards the end of January to onward.

Has he ever gone warm??

Ill say cold mid Dec thru early Jan. Then 3 weeks of torch. Back to near normal. Snowfall less than last YR. LOL

My read of JB's forecast is basically a 2007-08 repeat except colder overall for the nation. Worst of winter from the PAC NW into the Mid-west, pretty typical for a mod/strong la nina, with a tight N-S gradient/battlezone in the Northeast US. Not surprising he would choose 1955 as an analog, our coldest/snowiest strong nina winter. His call of +.5 to +1 temp departures isn't really the warm, in fact it suggests much of the winter could be very cold, with a major thaw in between. I don't look into the winter until October, so I can't make much comment on it. But I do believe we'll see extreme cold sitting very close to us, along the US-Canadian border into northern new england.

I will take that in a heartbeat. NE VT got absolutely pounded with over 12 feet of snow!

I thought he went warm 2 years ago.

http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/stor...-snow-for-c.asp

Another one

http://oklahomaskiesdotnet.blogspot.com/20...arly-start.html